Where can I but some Akrapovic pipes for my XTx that don�t cost half as much as the bike ???

I�ve read a considerable number of posts relating to the various aftermarket exhaust people have used, but can�t decide if there�s actually a clear winner in terms of performance, reliability and quality? Most will say the system they have is excellent and are very pleased with it, although this doesn�t give any real comparisons.

The reason for wanting an Akrapovic system is because, from what I perceive, this is possibly the best system available ??? Please point me in the right direction if you know better.

I�m certainly not looking for a loud system and appreciate there are fairly small gains in power terms, with the biggest improvement being weight saving.

I have all the cheaper performance bits already fitted, stage 1, stage 2 filters, Kev fuel mod etc, so I�m guessing the next step is really a set of pipes, or the big question is �Are a set of pipes actually worth buying� ???

I�ve seen the MTC exhausts and I know many people on here use them. I also see that most people go for the Stainless Steel end cans as opposed to the carbon or Titanium cans. The question is � Do S/S cans get hot like the OEM cans ???

I certainly don't know any better than the next man, but I think you need to get it straight in your own mind what you want the addition of aftermarket exhausts to achieve? What's important to you; sound quality, aesthetics, weight reduction, powergains? Then factor all that in with price. Get the answers to these questions straight in your head and you'll probably arrive your solution. In otherwords it's all down to personal choice!

I have Akros on the Z, and I'm with Keith, they are nice, but I can't really see or feel any perceived quality difference over other brands I've had dealings with over the years. There is way more choice now than when I bought mines cans in 2008 (in fact there wasn't any!) If I was starting out again I'd have to say I'd probably go MTC...

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They'll get hotter than aluminium or titanium.

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Yup

Different cans give different results, but it all depends on your expectations and aspirations - so start with them.

Personally, the Akrapovics sound lovely, but I don't think they are worth the ��� over other offerings. But it's a personal choice, and that choice is yours.

SelinaXC had MTC's on her X, it sounded great, deep and throaty. And the MTC'c are made here in the UK.

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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

It's a funny one the topic of cans-it's not just different brands, but also different configurations, length of the pipe work, diameter, they all affect how efficiently the engine expels the gasses. It is a shame there isn't a collection of dyno figures on varying styles and brands available to compare in one place on the site.

I'm aiming to get mine on the dyno soon, and i'm running a custom built set with k & n stage 1, dna stage 2 and PCV.

Will post results once obtained- but to get back to the original point, I'd agree with Pleidas and Gas up, best asses your needs and wants

What price are you getting quoted for the Akro"s ? i know where there is a new set still in the box for sale !! .I have just ordered a set of MTC cans ovals with carbon ends. I hope the build quality is good . I gave them a ring and had a chat then ordered on here .I will let you know what they"re like next week .

Well Spen I could have told you.

Let me explain if MTC were not the kind of company that would have provided myself and you guys the clients 100% satisfaction, do you think I would have bothered to enter into a sponsorship deal with them?

I let their products sell through me here because I know I am not going to get any post sale headaches from people saying oh my cans have fallen apart or they don't effing fit or they are too flimsy, etc etc.

MTC are top notch, in both quality and after sale service. peace of mind for me and for the members of

very good product + affordable prices + excellent quality and durability.

So it doesn't say Akrapovic or Yoshimura on them but performance wise a straight through can is a straight through can, it's just the badge on them that changes...

And as for Akraps, 3 or 4 of our members who have had them had problem with weldings splitting open and those flimsy carbon clamps snapping on them, and they paid... �650-�700 for them, I call that crazy.

I appreciate your thoughts and agree Akrapovic are expensive (approx �750) when compared to MTC (approx �280) although I don�t necessarily agree it�s just the name you are paying for.

I did read a lot of posts in the �Exhausts� section regarding fitting problems with MTC exhausts, so I guess all manufacturers have problems from time to time (the problem was fixed eventually with the help of MTC).

I would still be interested to know if there are any comparisons charts for the various systems available, performance wise, as this is one of the biggest driving forces in getting some after market pipes. If there are any dyno results for different systems I would like to see the improvements over standard. And which comes out top.

The only other concern I have is how �HOT� these things will get, I know the standard pipes will take your skin off if you touch them after a ride, hence the reason for the shrouds I presume. All after market pipes are bare so how hot do they get? Can you touch them after a ride? Will a pillion need asbestos pants? What cans (s/s, carbon, alloy, titanium etc) produce the least amount of heat? Are they safe without a shroud?

Spen � Please let me know what price the Akrs�s are, also be interested to know what you think of the new cans when you get them, BTW why did you go for carbon ends? Just a style preference?