I appreciate your thoughts and agree Akrapovic are expensive (approx �750) when compared to MTC (approx �280) although I don�t necessarily agree it�s just the name you are paying for.

I did read a lot of posts in the �Exhausts� section regarding fitting problems with MTC exhausts, so I guess all manufacturers have problems from time to time (the problem was fixed eventually with the help of MTC).

I would still be interested to know if there are any comparisons charts for the various systems available, performance wise, as this is one of the biggest driving forces in getting some after market pipes. If there are any dyno results for different systems I would like to see the improvements over standard. And which comes out top.

The only other concern I have is how �HOT� these things will get, I know the standard pipes will take your skin off if you touch them after a ride, hence the reason for the shrouds I presume. All after market pipes are bare so how hot do they get? Can you touch them after a ride? Will a pillion need asbestos pants? What cans (s/s, carbon, alloy, titanium etc) produce the least amount of heat? Are they safe without a shroud?

Spen � Please let me know what price the Akrs�s are, also be interested to know what you think of the new cans when you get them, BTW why did you go for carbon ends? Just a style preference?