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JMo 10-01-09 20:16

I don't usually post on such long threads (ADVrider anyone? - groan...) but here's one I'd perhaps sooner forget...

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSC09891.jpg

(yes, that is the trail, and I'm going up it...)

xxx

dallas 10-01-09 20:51

Jeez, Jmo, you got "balls"! Respect, lady, you're one hell of a rider! More pics, please? Thanx, greetz, Hans.

Molgan 10-01-09 20:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 78978)
I don't usually post on such long threads (ADVrider anyone? - groan...) but here's one I'd perhaps sooner forget...

Heh, looks like a trial bike would have been more at home there. =)

JMo 10-01-09 21:08

Yes - that picture was taken about half a mile from my profile location coordinates, late in the afternoon when I foolishly thought it was going to get easier (it didn't)... I ended up having to camp out that night...

I don't want to post too many pictures, as I will be writing up this trip for a magazine and want to keep the photos fresh for that...

However, here are a few more of the USA these past few months:

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0347.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0234.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0060.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSC09365.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0266.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0674.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0644.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0229.jpg

xxx

gregor 10-01-09 21:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 78978)
I don't usually post on such long threads (ADVrider anyone? - groan...) but here's one I'd perhaps sooner forget...

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSC09891.jpg

(yes, that is the trail, and I'm going up it...)

xxx


Nutter :001:

Molgan 10-01-09 21:15

One word: Breathtaking. :023:

JMo 10-01-09 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molgan (Post 78981)
Heh, looks like a trial bike would have been more at home there. =)

I agree - it is my intention to go back there and finish the ba5tard... on something a little more appropriate!

xxx

gregor 10-01-09 21:30

and three words: Green with envy .


Oh and two more: Engine bars...............JMo you're making me cringe.

Seriously,brilliant pics, looking forward to reading about your adventure.

JMo 10-01-09 21:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregor (Post 78987)
Oh and two more: Engine bars...............JMo you're making me cringe.

You know what, I don't think you really need them (sorry Metal Mule, Touratech et al).

I've been so impressed with the way the standard bike handles being on it's side - often on hard rocks...

It does amuse me when people (pre)judge the plastic panels on the new Tenere as some sort of gimmick - the tank cheeks are excellent, and also protect the front indicators perfectly. Likewise the mirrors (so far) have not suffered any damage when the bike has been dropped... The lower protection panels (over the coolant expansion tank and exhaust header) also do a great job - neither area has turned out to be vulnerable... even the bash plate is damn sturdy considering the crap I've ridden over - I noticed a small chunk was missing (you can just see it in the photo of the bike on it's side) under the water pump - goodness knows when that happened (it was much earlier on on the trip), but it's been excellent in Moab and the Rubicon - test enough I would say!

Having the exhausts tucked in under the rear seat also helps protect them in the event of a fall - even the plastic shrouds have barely a mark from where I've had to drag the bike around before picking it up...

I've not had any problem with the OEM bars either...

Everything just works on that bike!

xxx

steveD 10-01-09 22:30

JMo you've got it in one!!!!!!!!! When MM wanted my bike to do the additional after market bits I think I got a bit carried away with the BMW syndrome! I have already taken off the taller screen and put back on the original, next will be the bash plate, as I do not take on such serious tacks as you have for example. The standard bash plate fits the profile of the underside much better than the MM one and for my purposes will be quite adequate. Also I'm not that impressed by the sturdiness of the MM plate as the mountings are just not up to the job of a good thump! I would rather rely on the standard equipment as you have pointed out it is already up to the job. Well done for such a comprehensive evaluation of this bike and its capabilities and well done to Yamaha for getting it right, you've proved that from the box it does what it says. I doubt if alternative bikes could do what you have shown possible without modifications.
Respect:eusa_clap:
Cheers SteveD

josephau 11-01-09 10:29

Gargantuan Respect and amazing pics, JMo! I see you contrast the pics very well, snow vs. sand, lake vs. mountain, rural vs. Vegas. You are probably the only person I know who has thoroughly tested the bike, and it's great to know that the OEM bike handles well. I am however scratching my head as to how you pack everything plus camping equipment without pannier or sidebags? May the Tenere be with you for the rest of your awesome journey.

JMo 11-01-09 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephau (Post 79001)
Gargantuan Respect and amazing pics, JMo! You are probably the only person I know who has thoroughly tested the bike, and it's great to know that the OEM bike handles well. I am however scratching my head as to how you pack everything plus camping equipment without pannier or sidebags? May the Tenere be with you for the rest of your awesome journey.

Many thanks Josephau - the answer to your question looks like this:

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0026.jpg

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSCF0544.jpg

Although for the first part of my trip I left the green dry-bag (which holds my camping kit: tent, sleeping bag and air-matress, plus Jet-boil) in Vegas and just stayed in motels...

The black Ortlieb 'Rack-pack' bag (size M) holds all my personal bits and bobs, plus my Camelbak Blowfish which is big enough for a couple of day's food and maps etc. The Touratech tailbag (which stays on the bike even if I leave the luggage somewhere) has my tool roll, plus a spare tube and lube etc.

There is certainly an art to packing light (perhaps I'll start a dedicated thread, this isn't really the place) which I like to think I've eventually mastered... While some compact bits of kit can prove little more than fiddly and useless (and/or very expensive), I like to think I've pared it down to everything I need, and nothing I don't... my tent for example is not a micro fancy MSR thing, but a �20 dome tent from a local camping shop in Wales...)

Anyway, enough of my yakking off-topic, this is meant to be a photo thread after all!

xxx

gregor 11-01-09 11:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 78988)
You know what, I don't think you really need them (sorry Metal Mule, Touratech et al).

I've been so impressed with the way the standard bike handles being on it's side - often on hard rocks...

It does amuse me when people (pre)judge the plastic panels on the new Tenere as some sort of gimmick - the tank cheeks are excellent, and also protect the front indicators perfectly. Likewise the mirrors (so far) have not suffered any damage when the bike has been dropped... The lower protection panels (over the coolant expansion tank and exhaust header) also do a great job - neither area has turned out to be vulnerable... even the bash plate is damn sturdy considering the crap I've ridden over - I noticed a small chunk was missing (you can just see it in the photo of the bike on it's side) under the water pump - goodness knows when that happened (it was much earlier on on the trip), but it's been excellent in Moab and the Rubicon - test enough I would say!

Having the exhausts tucked in under the rear seat also helps protect them in the event of a fall - even the plastic shrouds have barely a mark from where I've had to drag the bike around before picking it up...

I've not had any problem with the OEM bars either...

Everything just works on that bike!

xxx

I agree with all of that bar the first sentence and have found the same, but of all the extras available the Yamaha engine bars made sense.

I've never fitted them to a bike before but 'got a funny feeling' about the Tenere :001:

............and with no frame rails underneath the engine and I'm reluctant to use the engine itself,they make excellent jacking points when lifting the bike for front wheel removal.

I'm wondering,as I do after reading your posts which always seem to hit the nail on the head,if the Yamaha handguards might be the best option bearing in mind how well thought out the rest of the bike is.

The KTM guards do the job well so far, ta for the tip elsewhere.

cotthem 11-01-09 11:51

One word: wow:eusa_clap:. the more a read JMo (and see pictures), the more I dare with mine.

JMo 11-01-09 18:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregor (Post 79004)
I agree with all of that bar the first sentence and have found the same, but of all the extras available the Yamaha engine bars made sense.

I've never fitted them to a bike before but 'got a funny feeling' about the Tenere :001:

............and with no frame rails underneath the engine and I'm reluctant to use the engine itself,they make excellent jacking points when lifting the bike for front wheel removal.

I'm wondering,as I do after reading your posts which always seem to hit the nail on the head,if the Yamaha handguards might be the best option bearing in mind how well thought out the rest of the bike is.

The KTM guards do the job well so far, ta for the tip elsewhere.

Hi Gregor - I've found that a box or jack-stand under the (plastic) sump guard is fine for lifting the bike for wheel removal. I'm unfamiliar with the Yamaha engine bars (I was really referring to the tubes that run up the side of the bike that Metal Mule do (ugly ugly ugly! sorry, SteveD x) - so do the Yamaha engine bars protect the underside of the engine too then?

As for the Yamaha OE hand guards, I've not seen them in the flesh, but I agree that in photos they do look like good (strong?) quality...

The only problem is that even with the optional spoilers, they don't seem to offer a huge amount of wind/weather protection, which is 50% of the reason I fitted guards in the first place - the other is to protect the levers/switchgear of course (and your fingers from the odd branch... x)

This is why I like the KTM guards so much - they offer a decent coverage for your hands, and are very strong/flexible in the event of a fall, especially when you consider they don't have an aluminium bar inside, it's just plastic!

xxx

gregor 11-01-09 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 79015)
Hi Gregor - I've found that a box or jack-stand under the (plastic) sump guard is fine for lifting the bike for wheel removal. I'm unfamiliar with the Yamaha engine bars (I was really referring to the tubes that run up the side of the bike that Metal Mule do (ugly ugly ugly! sorry, SteveD x) - so do the Yamaha engine bars protect the underside of the engine too then?

As for the Yamaha OE hand guards, I've not seen them in the flesh, but I agree that in photos they do look like good (strong?) quality...

The only problem is that even with the optional spoilers, they don't seem to offer a huge amount of wind/weather protection, which is 50% of the reason I fitted guards in the first place - the other is to protect the levers/switchgear of course (and your fingers from the odd branch... x)

This is why I like the KTM guards so much - they offer a decent coverage for your hands, and are very strong/flexible in the event of a fall, especially when you consider they don't have an aluminium bar inside, it's just plastic!

xxx

Glad the jack stand works.There is an oil pipe which exits under the engine between it and the bashplate which I didn't want to squash............I'm a natural worrier.
The Yam bars are nothing special,not pretty and don't protect the underside but do protect the sidecases and water pump housing.Not sure they are worth 90odd quid, I managed to get them half price after failing to haggle a discount on the bike.

But a bargain compared to Touratat prices.

I think the OE placcy bashplate does a fine job too.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/...400d0dd60e.jpg




http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/...50ebc79c45.jpg

gregor 11-01-09 21:07

and one more piccy before all the snow thaws and we return to a normal drizzly English Winter.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/...a9cd05d9_b.jpg

josephau 11-01-09 22:48

Yes, JMo, I agree less is more. I would be interested in a separate thread on how to pack light. You've got the real life experience on traveling for a long time with minimum luggage. I'm sure many of us would like to know what is really essential and what is really wasting space. BTW, that was a dare-devil pic on the train track.

JMo 12-01-09 02:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by josephau (Post 79034)
Yes, JMo, I agree less is more. I would be interested in a separate thread on how to pack light. You've got the real life experience on traveling for a long time with minimum luggage. I'm sure many of us would like to know what is really essential and what is really wasting space. BTW, that was a dare-devil pic on the train track.

Well, packing is always a very personal thing, and I can only tell you what I take... what I would say is that every trip I do encompasses similar elements - that is (usually) some camping, self-sufficient trail maintenance and the odd night out. Each time, if something doesn't get used, it doesn't come next time (except for spare/repair bits and bobs of course, as you never know when they might be required)... you'd be surprised how little you can get away with, even in changeable weather...

I'll make a cup of tea and put something together in a new thread x

ps. This railway crossing over a canyon was even more hairy! - I'm sure I could hear a train in the distance (turned out to be a false alarm), and it was tricky riding across the railway sleepers as your wheels tend to drop between them! (on the bridge itself they were closer together...)

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...8/DSC09951.jpg

xxx

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 12-01-09 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 79015)
Hi Gregor - I've found that a box or jack-stand under the (plastic)
As for the Yamaha OE hand guards, I've not seen them in the flesh, but I agree that in photos they do look like good (strong?) quality...
xxx

They are.

Very strong - from a spill or two in the swedish forest last year, there is a vid on the web, you'll have to excuse the quality first time at being a director/producer/star!!!

http://www.smokingtailpipes.com/Video/Eur08-Sweden.wmv

Well - it's still pictures......... just moving ones!

Molgan 12-01-09 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 79051)
They are.

Very strong - from a spill or two in the swedish forest last year, there is a vid on the web, you'll have to excuse the quality first time at being a director/producer/star!!!

http://www.smokingtailpipes.com/Video/Eur08-Sweden.wmv

Well - it's still pictures......... just moving ones!

Nice! The story as I percieved it: I went up to Sweden where they have lousy roads, crashed, turned around and went back home? :D

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 12-01-09 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Molgan (Post 79064)
Nice! The story as I percieved it: I went up to Sweden where they have lousy roads, crashed, turned around and went back home? :D

Hahahahah

That wasn't too far south from where you are! There is alot more, but I'm strugglng to get the time to update the website.....

I did think the roads were lousy, so I decided to use the trails along side them, just sometimes they don't go anywhere.

gregor 12-01-09 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 79051)
They are.

Very strong - from a spill or two in the swedish forest last year, there is a vid on the web, you'll have to excuse the quality first time at being a director/producer/star!!!

http://www.smokingtailpipes.com/Video/Eur08-Sweden.wmv

Well - it's still pictures......... just moving ones!


Thanks for that Gas_Up.

I think l will get some at some point, the KTM guards are good for now and keep my hands warm in Winter but I know from experience with that type of guard in heavy falls they can twist or squash in, snapping levers.

JMo 12-01-09 23:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by gregor (Post 79029)
and one more piccy before all the snow thaws and we return to a normal drizzly English Winter.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3077/...a9cd05d9_b.jpg

Lovely picture there Gregor - reminds me of what a joy it is to ride in the south east of England (where you still can of course...), and especially at this time of year - I'm almost homesick!

I used to live in Sussex and would often head over to Kent to ride some trails - this was my friend Julie and I in Decemeber 2005 - when you had all that snow around Christmas time!

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...C00268copy.jpg

xxx

Old Git Ray 13-01-09 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 79152)
..........(where you still can of course...).......

xxx

THAT is the real problem.

Good to hear from ya JMo

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 13-01-09 08:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Git ray (Post 79156)
THAT is the real problem.



Join the TRF, and help to fight it.......

www.trf.org.uk

v2oom 14-01-09 12:41

I'm quite new to using forums and haven't posted any pictures before, but here goes.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...m/DSCN1916.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...m/DSCN1897.jpg

This is in the Queen Elizabeth Forest to the east of Loch Lomond in Scotland

tripletom 14-01-09 13:29

That looks stunning fella. Pics turned out just nice.

Molgan 14-01-09 13:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by v2oom (Post 79332)
This is in the Queen Elizabeth Forest to the east of Loch Lomond in Scotland

Great pics! Nature looks stunningly similar to what we have up here, is it pine forrests in that first one?

v2oom 14-01-09 14:35

Yes, I think they are mixture of Norwegian pine and Scots Pine.

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...m/DSCN1902.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...m/DSCN1936.jpg
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...m/DSCN1923.jpg

The second pic is Loch Katrine. That is the Loch that supplies Glasgow with most of its drinking water.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 14-01-09 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by v2oom (Post 79344)

Funny this, the picture below was in Kielder...


http://www.smokingtailpipes.com/Gall...er-Sat15th.jpg

Not so different really. Molgan, yes Scotland is like your forests, only not as cold !!

stoo24 15-01-09 14:32

V2oom, I'm wondering if the tracks you have used in the Queen Elizabeth Park are legal or did you just chance it? I'm still waiting for my Tenere (46 sleeps!) and starting to wonder what trails I can use it on north of the Border. I'm surrounded by great forest trails and use them all the time on my mountain bike and rarely see another sole but I know using my thumper on these trails is unlikely to go unnoticed.

Gas UP, is the Kielder Forest any good? I know there's a trail there but never been for a look. Do you have to pay?

Any info would be much appreciated.

Cheers,
Stoo

v2oom 15-01-09 15:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoo24 (Post 79470)
V2oom, I'm wondering if the tracks you have used in the Queen Elizabeth Park are legal or did you just chance it? I'm still waiting for my Tenere (46 sleeps!) and starting to wonder what trails I can use it on north of the Border. I'm surrounded by great forest trails and use them all the time on my mountain bike and rarely see another sole but I know using my thumper on these trails is unlikely to go unnoticed.


I think the trails are mostly for mountain bikes and logging access. I did see two park rangers in 4x4s and all they did was wave to me. So it can't be too illegal.
If you look on Google maps you'll see the trails i was on (you have to zoom in quite a bit). Its possible to get from Drymen to Stronachlacher by going around the south side of Loch Ard and its mostly off-road.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 15-01-09 16:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoo24 (Post 79470)
Gas UP, is the Kielder Forest any good? I know there's a trail there but never been for a look. Do you have to pay?

It's �3 to go from Kielder to the A68 an I think it's about 12 miles. If you're an off road novice it's really quite good, and easly within the capabilities of the Tourances - but of you are looking for something a little more challenging then better heading into Northumberland/Cumbria. I've stuck with the Tourances on the Ten as I have a TTR for the more serious stuff.

v2oom 15-01-09 19:57

Good point JMo.

I have edited my post.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 15-01-09 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 79495)
There are a 101 arguments for and against specific access for motorbikes, many of which I've added to on countless other forums, so I'm not going to start here too...

and we all know that the Ramblers have a much better organised machine - best not to give them any more ammo.

BTW - if you don't have the rights to ride, you risk your bike being impounded!

JMo 15-01-09 21:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by v2oom (Post 79497)
Good point JMo.

I have edited my post.

And I've removed my reference to it...

xxx

gregor 15-01-09 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMo (Post 79152)
Lovely picture there Gregor - reminds me of what a joy it is to ride in the south east of England (where you still can of course...), and especially at this time of year - I'm almost homesick!

I used to live in Sussex and would often head over to Kent to ride some trails - this was my friend Julie and I in Decemeber 2005 - when you had all that snow around Christmas time!

http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...C00268copy.jpg

xxx

Excellent

I was down in East Sussex today and happened on this lane between Pett and Fairlight.What a contrast to a few days ago, looks more like Borneo.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3449/...0fff82f4_b.jpg

Portmarco 16-01-09 00:01

http://data.tumblr.com/e0bwUg069irka...Ti8Yo1_500.jpg

Down and dirty in Northern Ireland.
Finally i got a half day free to take my new tenere a good run. Went round the north coast of Ireland and clocked up 220 miles along the way. It was my first time to get riding the bike on dry, ice free, roads and i was very impressed with its handling and adequate power (ever though i'm still running in). Roll on the summer..

Skunkmoto 16-01-09 14:06

There are trails round Wooler, Rothbury, Alnwick and a few round Hexham, Alston, Brampton all ok btw.

I haven't ridden them all but there are a few I've done that are suitable for road tyres and 'big' bikes. Something I intend to do on the Tenere is have a look at the ones I've not ridden.

Will pop a post in the rideoot section and sort out some border raids when the daylight returns. Thread hijack over.


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