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This is the best ive seen XTX's doing wheelies no doubt
http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/xtx/video/163332 |
After watching the above wheelies, what gear do you reckon the guys were in when they lifted them and it sounded like they changed gears in a couple of the wheelies?
What was that about covering the back brake, they had their feet on the seat half the time?! I would definitely keep the back brake covered, but I am no wheelie expert, only lifted the front a few times and never for any amount of time! Z |
I think it was first gear on a few of them.
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John the old red bike is a 1980 XT500, with a 20L fuel tank. The XT660 is very heavy in the front end & is a hard bike to learn to wheelie as you have to bounce up the front end in 2nd as well as alot of throttle. Once it is up it wants to fall side ways because of being front heavy & with the small XTX front wheel there is not much gyro effect for a really long wheelie. The XTR would be better with the 21" wheel as the wheel is bigger & has more gyro effect for steering while wheeling. Next time I go out riding with my mates I will post some photos of the XT660 wheeling. |
Kev,
Thanks for that. When you say pop the clutch at low RPM, are we talking say around 20kph in 2nd? Now, when we get to the "blip" part... what magniture of blipping are we talking about? Assuming I get the back-brake technique right - we are still talking about nailing it in second then? And then are we dumping, slipping or just quickly-but-smoothly releasing the clutch? Mic |
What I do is get the revs just in the torque range around the 3500rpm mark. Compress the front end down by pushing forward & then pull back hard at the same time slipping the clutch under full power, don't for get to cover the brake. As it starts to lift I start easing off the power, once 3/4 the way up I am already on the brake applying pressure, if I did not accelerate again the brake would bring the bike straight down. To control the wheelie I shift to 3 after 2 or 3 blips of the throttle, this slow everything down. I then have control of the wheelie so I am using less power & less brakes with very little speed increase. If you have a great speed increase you are not at the correct height. What you want to learn is where the balance point is, so get two friends to lift the front end of your bike into a wheelie, both your mates holding each fork leg, with you on it pushing the rear brake as hard as you can, with both of your feet on the pegs in the wheelie position. What you will find there is a Zone, the zone is about 45 degrees. Get them to raise & lower the bike from the balance point, that's where the bike will not fall forwards or backwards. Forwards to the point where the bike can't be held as it just want's to fall forward. This 45 degree angle is where you have control & want to wheelie in. |
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do you think that this pictures are appropriate for xt660com?!I sympathize with everyone who had an accident but I think that this is too much.:eusa_hand: |
Domino, tae asnswer yer question.....I think this is EXACTLY what the sarter needs to know what can happen IF YOU DONT COVER THAT BACK BRAKE...I can do wheelies, real long an work my way to 4th or even top on occasion...an this happened to me, I remember it clear as day...I was in second an clicked into third too quick, an wasnt in my Relax/balance point yet , I struggle to keep the brake covered, as my feet are on the edge of the foot rests, then when a get tae the floating point then I remember an cover th eback brake...on this occassion I wasnt floating yet, intae 3rd too quick an in a millisecond the bike was flipping, with my left ankle caught under it.... I was going too slow....if I had a bit of speed, the bike would have went from me clear....an thos jist goes to show that the experianced can get caught out....1st gear wheelies are too fierce... they come up too quick, an ye tenmd to rev out an usually flip the bike. 2nd is better....then when in 3rd you can relax, when it floats...then ye can move yerself around the seat, you can look between the forks...or from the side, if ye can still see over the bars ....YER NOT HIGH ENOUGH to where the balance point is....I did 1st gear wheelies for around a year, an thought a wis a wheelie king reving out.... till the time came an got it up in 2nd....an as KEV said, after a few blips on the gas, clutchless click tae 3rd. an ye could sit there all day....if these pictures offend you....am sorry, but they might save someone elses life, who thinks anyone can do this....Ive wheelied an slipped off the back, hold ing onto the bars, an buffed ma knees to the BONE an I kid not, I hit a lamppost once...I broke my left shoulder 3 years ago, ave blew 2 dominator engines with too much wheelies actually Roasted them... an am talkin 3 nights a week 4/5 hours a nite constant wheelie practise....a once fell off the back an ran after the bike holdin on to the bars only tae let go an see it carrer down the centre of the road hitting Cars...an ave also overtaken Cars at speed doin it right....but a kid not... be prepared fur a few spills...it doesnt happen over nite.....Mabozzar
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As i started the topic i feel slightly responsible if people have been offended...so sorry to those who have. ...however my original question (about how best to wheelie THIS PARTICULAR BIKE) has been answered by several people so thanks to all that have contributed and maybe we should draw a line under it there. :icon_thumright: |
I just rev it with the clutch in then let it go, usually do this (not often) in 1st or 2nd gear then hold it up thru the gears .With the XT front being so solid a tug on the bars just using power will do it also.But the XT really needs another 10-15 HP to make it easy like on my Husaberg 600E.That thing wheelies standing still.
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