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Eagle747 03-06-08 18:41

too much weight on the rear - or does my bum look big in this!
 
Maxwell

I agree - and failing a positive reply from Acerbis or a friend who does clever stuff with aluminium sheet I think I'm going to have to shell out for the OTR tank! :-(

Eagle

McThor 03-06-08 22:03

Weight distribution is a big issue. If you are traveling long distance and need all your packs and panniers, I would much prefer to have the extra weight distributed a little more on the bike than placing it all on the back (and high at that). But it takes a bit of getting used to, regardless of where you place that extra weight. There is no easy solution. But imho, the extra large tank is the easiest and most convenient solution, albeit the most expensive one. Having extra fuel in jerry cans various places on your bike, does solve the fuelproblem (somewhat). But it is just easier to fill up 26l of petrol and not worry about it for another 500km or so. And on my trip through Africa, I had a 10l jerry can on TOP of that. And I needed it at times. But if you don't foresee fuel being a problem within the 500km radius, you can use that space on your rack for equipment that otherwise might be taken up by jerry cans. Let's face it; there's not a lot of room on a bike.

So there isn't a downside to the extra large tank, aside from the cost? Yup, there is. When you are NOT traveling and you have removed your rack and panniers, the bike gets very nose heavy. Forget about wheelies (unless you sprocket down, I suppose). Offroad becomes harder, because the bikes nose digs into soft surfaces more than usuall. You can always change back to the original tank. But I'm a lazy gitt, so that's not happening :). I just deal with it and not drive so much offroad. Not that I do that a lot anyway, so it's no loss to me.

Eagle 747, if you decide to go with the OTR tank and need a few bits of advise (the "manual" is in german. Unless they've translated it by now), feel free to contact me. I'd be happy to help if I can. But to be honest, it's not that difficult.

Best regards

Torsten

labrat 04-06-08 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 57164)
The most clever idea we saw here was that dummy exhaust can which was in fact a fuel tank, but it implied that you had to have a 2 in 1 exhaust system. Still it looked like a great idea to me.

Can't find that thread again but if someone remembers where it was, it would be nice to see it again.

Hi Captmoto, think its this one( http://www.rtw.is/index.php?option=c...mid=12&lang=en)

Eagle747 04-06-08 10:50

help with tank ect
 
Torsten

Thanks for the offer. I am planning to put the text of the instructions through babelfish when I get time. Hopefully the translation will be understandable. If I gave it to you maybe you could tidy it up and we could post it here? I don't think there is a copyright issue as it freely available from their site.

Regarding the weight distribution issue - I'd have thought just not filling the tank up all the way when riding off road would be a solution! As the coolant tank gets moved further back (where the toolkit goes) does than help a bit to balance things out if you don't ride the rough stuff with a full tank unless it is really necessary? Or am I being to simple? :-)

Quote:

Originally Posted by McThor (Post 57557)
Weight distribution is a big issue. If you are traveling long distance and need all your packs and panniers, I would much prefer to have the extra weight distributed a little more on the bike than placing it all on the back (and high at that). But it takes a bit of getting used to, regardless of where you place that extra weight. There is no easy solution. But imho, the extra large tank is the easiest and most convenient solution, albeit the most expensive one. Having extra fuel in jerry cans various places on your bike, does solve the fuelproblem (somewhat). But it is just easier to fill up 26l of petrol and not worry about it for another 500km or so. And on my trip through Africa, I had a 10l jerry can on TOP of that. And I needed it at times. But if you don't foresee fuel being a problem within the 500km radius, you can use that space on your rack for equipment that otherwise might be taken up by jerry cans. Let's face it; there's not a lot of room on a bike.

So there isn't a downside to the extra large tank, aside from the cost? Yup, there is. When you are NOT traveling and you have removed your rack and panniers, the bike gets very nose heavy. Forget about wheelies (unless you sprocket down, I suppose). Offroad becomes harder, because the bikes nose digs into soft surfaces more than usuall. You can always change back to the original tank. But I'm a lazy gitt, so that's not happening :). I just deal with it and not drive so much offroad. Not that I do that a lot anyway, so it's no loss to me.

Eagle 747, if you decide to go with the OTR tank and need a few bits of advise (the "manual" is in german. Unless they've translated it by now), feel free to contact me. I'd be happy to help if I can. But to be honest, it's not that difficult.

Best regards

Torsten


McThor 04-06-08 20:05

Moving the coolant tank back under the seat does move the weight back. You're right ofcourse. But if I remember correctly, it is one liter or less. So it's not a big issue. But I did forget about it.

I'm a practicality buff and realy put appearences waaay down on my list. As long as the stuff works, and works well, I don't care how it looks (well, not a whole lot anyway). Your practical approach towards just not filling the tank up completely, is right up my alley. I think you and I could be great friends :).

But as I said, I'm not big on offroad so I'll propably stick to my "fill'er up" expression when tanking petrol. Besides, I've just gotten used to it and don't regard it a big deal. I was just pointing out the "downside" of the bigger tank.

As for the "manual" you get from OTR, I think babelfish will do a much better translation than I will. I did a small write up with some pictures when I fitted mine, that might help you out. Can't remember exactly, but I think I saw your name in that thread. Here is the thread if you can't find it again http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=3880.

Best regards

Torsten

Eagle747 04-06-08 21:46

tanking it!!
 
Torsten

I've ridden for 35 years but never been off-road - intentionally! But I plan to do Uk to Libya via Spain and Morocco. So I guess I will need a whole lot of fuel capacity. Yes - spotted your comments - just thought I'd fil in a few gaps (hope you don't mind).
Got the water pump protector today from OffTheRoad - complete with German instructions and a nice offer for enduro training - in Germany, and a German Enduro mag too. Never mind - I enjoyed the pictures. The only bit of the instructions I understood was the torque settings - which I ignored anyway....

The tank will be a bit more complicated (and hellish expensive) - but gotta do it. With the luggage, pipes, clothing and other stuff this is going to be an expensive adventure. But I plan it to be one of many - so I see this as an investment. Hope my wife does too!

You said <<as I said, I'm not big on offroad>> - and you travelled across Africa!!!!

Eagle (aka Mark from Cornwall)

maxwell123455 04-06-08 21:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eagle747 (Post 57669)
....The tank will be a bit more complicated (and hellish expensive) - but gotta do it. With the luggage, pipes, clothing and other stuff this is going to be an expensive adventure. But I plan it to be one of many - so I see this as an investment. Hope my wife does too!

You said <<as I said, I'm not big on offroad>> - and you travelled across Africa!!!!

Eagle (aka Mark from Cornwall)

Just remember every trip is going to be expensive but its the memories that you will have with you for lift that counts.

I wish i could do the trip your planning on doing, well i was going to be doing most of it until my brother changed his plans and canelled out agains ago. O Well ive got europe to look forward too.

Eagle747 04-06-08 23:53

Join me?
 
Maxwell
Maybe you could join up with me? I wouldn't want to do this trip with a group - but a buddy would be fine, and safer. Still not sure of the timing cos I gotta do an off road course and find about �2500 for the bike and the trip - and I may be heading for redundancy (again!). But it WILL happen. Think about it anyway. And anyone else who's interested - but if it get to more than four of us I might strike out on my own... But wouldn't leave a single buddy on his / her own. It's a bit like diving. Alone, but you need a backup.

but hey - what an adventure.... I've only ever flown to the USA three times (twice for work) Paris (for work) and Amsterdam (sadly for work too). So I aim to get well travelled before I die. My other half won't go any further than the Scilly Isles (which is great for a quiet holiday but not an adventure) so that's why I have not done this stuff up till now. Hence buying the XTR - checked out everything including the 1200GS and this is defo the right bike. XTZ too tall and not available anyway. Everything else not tough or reliable enough. KTMs are great but I wouldn't trust them across the Sahara - or a BMW either.

So there it is - how about it?

Eagle

Eagle

Hunday 10-04-09 23:48

Jerry Cans ???
 
Not many people can afford the price of a 22 L tank from OTR , me included,
So after looking at my bike for and hour or so , I decided to make two Alluminium " Jerry Cans".
Beats that plastic bottle everyone carries strapped to the back of their bikes and now I have 24 Litres to do those long rides.
I used 2.5 mm alluminium plate , bent it on a home made bender , made up all the other bits and pieces , and got a mate of mine to tig them together,
The filler necks I got a machine shop to turn for me.
And the fuel caps are steel allen cap blank offs with a copper crush washer for a seal.
I used an alluminium angle iron brace at the bottom with 2 x 6mm bolts to secure .
And at the top a swung the original pannier brackets round and used the 2 x 6mm allen cap screws to secure the top bracket.
It only takes 2 minutes to remove the tank and pour it in your main tank.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/Photo273.jpg

They worked out at 4.6 litres per tank.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/Photo158.jpg

Robson Jabor�/SC 28-04-09 20:29

Here in Brazil the GiliMoto produce one, with 22 liters.

It's it, with 22 liters.
http://www.gilimoto.com.br/produtos/...dia/CPBR63.jpg

It cost here R$ 600,00 or US$ 256.00.


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