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fridayman 24-08-07 14:05

Larger Fuel Tank
 
Has anyone on here (or know of someone who has) fitted a larger tank from another model of bike e.g. TT600 21/23L tanks, or perhaps even a KTM Adventure tank?

maxwell123455 24-08-07 19:59

I know that offtheroad do one but it is very expensive, a would also like to know if there is a cheaper option to even increase it by a few litres.

CaptMoto 25-08-07 02:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwell123455
I know that offtheroad do one but it is very expensive, a would also like to know if there is a cheaper option to even increase it by a few litres.

Carry a jerry can :D :tongue3: :sneeze:

mauro 25-08-07 05:46

I'm wondering why Accerbis hasn't came up with a larger tank. I used to have one on my old XT600, so when I filled up it last 450 Km. And tank cost it was half of the one shown @ O-T-R.

Saludos,

Mauro

McThor 26-08-07 02:56

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Originally Posted by mauro
I'm wondering why Accerbis hasn't came up with a larger tank. I used to have one on my old XT600, so when I filled up it last 450 Km. And tank cost it was half of the one shown @ O-T-R.

Saludos,

Mauro

Well according to Thorsten at OTR, the Acerbis tanks were/are plastic. The ones you get from OTR are carbon moulded and aledgedly unbreakable. That, according to Thorsten, is the major reason for the price difference. I also got a salespitch that there were some technical difficulties that needed to be overcome in the design for the 660R that was not needed for previous XT's (think it was something with the fuelpump, ???). This also increased the cost. Don't ask me what the difficulties were exactly. I stopped listening when he had told me they'd been overcome :).

Still waiting on the tanks I ordered from OTR. I'll be sure to review them thoroughly here on the boards when I get them installed.

By the way, when I did simillar research on the subject I found these guys in USA : http://www.tourtank.com/ . Not sure what a contraption like that will do to your insurance. But hats off to them for at least providing an alternative. In the end I decided that this was just a shiny and unnecessarily expensive, jerry-can solution.

dazzerrtw 26-08-07 17:43

Maybe we should all email acerbis asking if they intend to make a 22 lt tank for the XT660.
If enough people said they wanted one then just maybe Acerbis will make them,they should also cost a lot less than the 900e they are asking for the one's on the net.
Acerbis tank's should be about �250 .

mauro 28-08-07 05:00

Hey McThor,

You are right. I remember when I got my PCIII installed I found a couple of electronic contacts which did not exist on the other tank.
Any way I have to wait for an OTR sale-off because the alternative one you mentioned it looks like a beer's barrel more than a reserve tank :laughing9: .

Pls. let me know how it works as soon as you get it installed and if you can take some pictures to show, even better.

Saludos from Chile,

Mauro

McThor 28-08-07 19:24

Beerbarrel, eh? Hmmmm...not bad Mauro. Not bad idea at all! Think I might order one after all...hehe.


:beer[1]:

Oh and ofcourse I will post pictures. I am in fact thinking of making a "how to fit OTR large tank" video. Allthough I do know how to hold a wrench and a screwdriver, I am by no means a technical genious. I'm however hoping that the tank will be easy enough to install, even with my limited technical capabilities.

Btw...Thorsten at OTR said he sent the tanks Thursday. As of today, I haven't recieved anything. The waiting is killing me!

mauro 29-08-07 05:34

Be patient, for my PCIII ,Leo Vince exaust & BMC filter I had to wait for month!!! This is the problem to live at the end of the world.

Lucky you. Shortly, you'll recover all the time you're waiting now going once in a while to fill up. So, worth to wait.:icon_scoot[1]:

Awaiting your video.

Mauro

maxwell123455 29-08-07 21:11

I would probably buy a larger fuel tank if there was one avaiable that did not cost me an arm and a leg. At the moment i OTR tank it too much so i think i might be looking at carrying some either metal jerry cans or plastic fuel containers to carry my extra fuel in.

Only thing i am wonder which at the moment to go for. Metal being very easily dented and possibled pierced by falling off the bike and heavy. Or plastic that can bend and flex more, is lighter but can still be pierced, not be locked to stop people steeling my fuel, cant be fixed as easy metal.

fridayman 30-08-07 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwell123455
Only thing i am wonder which at the moment to go for. Metal being very easily dented and possibled pierced by falling off the bike and heavy. Or plastic that can bend and flex more, is lighter but can still be pierced, not be locked to stop people steeling my fuel, cant be fixed as easy metal.

I would rather go for the plastic containers. If something happens to them, they are cheap to replace.

I've also seen some auxilliary tanks that Acerbis do - they fit on the rear rack/seat.

midlife crisis 30-08-07 16:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by fridayman
I've also seen some auxilliary tanks that Acerbis do - they fit on the rear rack/seat.

I've heard about these, I belive you need to fit an in-line pump with them.

fridayman 30-08-07 20:34

I got an email today saying that Acerbis are releasing a larger tank for the XT which should be available before the end of the year. And get this, it will cost �255!!! I'll take 2 thanks :icon_cheers:

maxwell123455 30-08-07 21:13

very nice, might have to get that for christmas then of next year. I wonder what size they are going to make it. Same as the OTR one, smaller or larger?

midlife crisis 31-08-07 10:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by fridayman
I got an email today saying that Acerbis are releasing a larger tank for the XT which should be available before the end of the year. And get this, it will cost �255!!! I'll take 2 thanks :icon_cheers:

Get in!!!! Brilliant!!!! Nice to see that OTR will be getting some competition.

mauro 01-09-07 04:42

Great news:yahoo: . So, just 4 moths left.

Somebody know any contact to place an order for one of those??

Saludos, Mauro

Techno Prisoners 01-09-07 11:30

Morning fridayman
Unaware of this thread, I sent an email to Acerbis (USA) to ask when they would be producing a large tank. A guy called Brian Fullerton replied to say there were no plans to produce an XT660R in USA or Italy at present. I coudl do with a large tank before end of year and did not want to spend silly money. Have you any contacts at Acerbis who I could chase about getting an Acerbis tank? I would take it to Timbuktu in January with Nick Sanders, so it would probably get into publicity photos etc.
Cheers

maxwell123455 01-09-07 20:27

Techno Prisoners
I dont know if you know this but on Men and Motors (131 on sky) on thursdays at 8.30 there is a Timbuktu thingy on with nick sanders. I have been watching it and the roads are either good ie tarmac, or really crap ie sand, pistes, rippled tracks. After reading a few of his books i think he is a really down to earth bloke and the trip you have planned with him should be great. Make sure to keep us all up to date with what happens.

Techno Prisoners 01-09-07 22:40

You're right. Nick Sanders is a very straightforward guy. I had to make a conscious effort to try not to come across as being awestruck when I met him. You don't meet real heros very often in life! I think he's probably dispensed with all the "biker-hero" bs, along with all other useless baggage as he rode round the world several times un-noticed. He's very modest about what he does and has achieved. God knows how he keeps his head together when leading groups of relatively novice endurance riders. I reckon it is probably harder to do that than ride solo around the world.

The current TV series is film of the same trip completed in January 2007. The 2008 trip will be 8000 miles total, so that should be sufficient to get used to the XT - I'll be changing my name to Technosaurarse.

I think he may have some places left for January 2008 if you look at his website www.nicksanders.com
The site also has several pictures of an XT660R fully Metal Mule'd up.

Hoping to get the snatchy throttle sorted before I attempt some of those rocky downhills or I'll be appearing in the spring 2008 series of Casualty!!
Cheers.

McThor 01-09-07 23:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwell123455
I would probably buy a larger fuel tank if there was one avaiable that did not cost me an arm and a leg. At the moment i OTR tank it too much so i think i might be looking at carrying some either metal jerry cans or plastic fuel containers to carry my extra fuel in.

Only thing i am wonder which at the moment to go for. Metal being very easily dented and possibled pierced by falling off the bike and heavy. Or plastic that can bend and flex more, is lighter but can still be pierced, not be locked to stop people steeling my fuel, cant be fixed as easy metal.

As someone else suggested, I'd go for plastic too. Plastic has a negative twang to it, but in this case I'd place my money bet on them enduring a crash much better than the metal ones.

About time someone came up with a cheaper solution than OTR has to offer. In all fairness it should be said that OTR's are moulded carbon fiber. At 255$ that Acerbis are planning, I'm guessing they'll be plastic. Nothing wrong with that. Had I the choice, I'd be going for the plastic ones myself. Don't forget you'll propably need to add the cost of a pump kit and so on. But that'll propably bring the price up to about 300$ or something. World of difference from the OTR ones. Too bad I can't wait for them to come out as I will be leaving 4'th of November this year :(.

maxwell123455 02-09-07 11:48

hope all goes will mcthor. So how does the XT now handle with the larger fuel tank. Placing alot more wieght up front and higher the bike must feel alot more top heavy and get some time getting us to?? Any ways i cant wait to see photos and a spec for the new tank from Acerbis. As soon as anyone finds out please post it on the website for all of us to see.

McThor 02-09-07 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwell123455
hope all goes will mcthor. So how does the XT now handle with the larger fuel tank. Placing alot more wieght up front and higher the bike must feel alot more top heavy and get some time getting us to?? Any ways i cant wait to see photos and a spec for the new tank from Acerbis. As soon as anyone finds out please post it on the website for all of us to see.

Well, as described in another thread, I've got the tank, but not the tankcap (and some other stuff). Didn't see the point in half-fitting the bike, since I use it on a daily basis. Figured I'd fit it all when I have it all. Hope to have the tankcap and the bashplate tomorrow though.

In any case; any weight you put on the bike is going to alter it's performance. But yeah, placing an extra 14 kg's where the tank is, is undoubtedly going to make it topheavy. Going to be a beeatch to lift back up when/if I drop it. But I guess it's a compromise I'll have to live with for carrying extra fuel. Not to mention all my bags and panniers. But hey, I sure as hell aint going to travel across Africa with just a toothbrush and a Visa card, just so the bike wont be heavy to lift up :).

And yeah, I'll be posting pics as soon as I have them. Again, I hope I get the stuff tomorrow. Will still be missing the windshield and crashbars though, since they were sent later than the bashplate and tankcap. But maybe I'll get lucky. You guys will be the first to know.

McThor 03-09-07 18:56

Got notice today when I came back from a drive that they'd tried to deliver a package. It is ready for pickup at my local postoffice tomorrow. Yay!

maxwell123455 23-09-07 19:50

i was just wondering wheather anyone has heard of any more information about the Acerbis larger tank. Specs, picture,details,dates any thing?????

Renier 15-11-07 08:20

Good day,
im doing a 16day trip in africa next year and im also not keen on paying that huge amount of bucks on the OTR tank.. jus too damn exp.

please keep us posted on the Acerbis tank, i mailed Clarke tanks yetserday and they have no intention of making a tank for us.. sux ass.

maxwell123455 15-11-07 20:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renier (Post 39147)
Good day,
im doing a 16day trip in africa next year and im also not keen on paying that huge amount of bucks on the OTR tank.. jus too damn exp.

Where abouts are you going??

Renier 20-11-07 13:39

thusfar its towards angola, but it might change.. thinkin bout doin "KAOKOLAND" not sure on the spelling, but its a couple 1000km's.

ill jus have to carry jerry cans with extra fuel.
10gorillas excl shipping and import taxes wont be ideal for me ;-)

slick 03-01-08 21:20

any news on the XT tank?

dazzerrtw 03-01-08 21:37

Come On Acerbis....were all waiting :confused2:

maxwell123455 04-01-08 11:42

I think someone has forgot about us!!!! all those other people looking to get stuff done first and we are just getting the :crowded:

Techno Prisoners 05-02-08 15:59

I just took a 5 litre plastic can strapped on the back of the bike. Total range with both the 15 litre main tank and the can was about 275 miles or 440 km. Saves a lot of money and you can chuck the can when you're done. A mate had a 10 litre metal tank which was quite flat and fitted onto his rear rack under his luggage. Made the bike a bit top heavy, but enormous range and handy if you have one of those petrol stoves.

Eagle747 30-05-08 22:59

Acerbis
 
So what happened to the Acerbis tank we were told to expect? My dealer called them this week (end of May 08) and was told they still have no plans for the 660.... :-(

maxwell123455 31-05-08 00:53

Ive lost hope in them ever making a tank. I think your best bet is a 10l diesal can (can carry petrol just coloured black for diesal) for any large trip and you will get a great deal more milage before you need to fill up

Eagle747 31-05-08 01:34

heavy heavy
 
Gonna need a way strong rack to carry a 10 litre can- that's about - err I can't work it out.... Cheaper though.

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Originally Posted by maxwell123455 (Post 57161)
Ive lost hope in them ever making a tank. I think your best bet is a 10l diesal can (can carry petrol just coloured black for diesal) for any large trip and you will get a great deal more milage before you need to fill up


CaptMoto 31-05-08 01:41

The most clever idea we saw here was that dummy exhaust can which was in fact a fuel tank, but it implied that you had to have a 2 in 1 exhaust system. Still it looked like a great idea to me.

Can't find that thread again but if someone remembers where it was, it would be nice to see it again.

Denny 31-05-08 07:19

Ardvark bought that from paul666 (i think) for his planned trip to Syria, which unfortunately fell through.

He should be somewhere in the UK right now....

maxwell123455 31-05-08 13:51

It was in the buy and sell section from what i remember but is probably deleted now. Its was a great idea and looked frantisctic :unibrow:. I just looked like any normal performance can and it just clipped off and you took the end cap off and filled your bike with it.

10L of a petrol isnt that heavy any rack that is produced for the XTR should be able to withstand the strain. I know my rack would it could carry another persons weight im sure (not to sure about the subframe though)

Eagle747 02-06-08 12:38

Acerbis tank
 
I sent them an email asking if they were still planning to make one. No reply yet. I did say a few people on here would be interested if they did.

I think a litre = 1 Kilo (that's for water, but petrol is close in density) - so 10 litres = 10 kilos! Most racks specifify max 5 kilos, but will take more. Not sure if the bouncing about off road would be a bit too much strain. I have ordered a Touratech 'strong' rack - We'll see.......



Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwell123455 (Post 57161)
Ive lost hope in them ever making a tank. I think your best bet is a 10l diesal can (can carry petrol just coloured black for diesal) for any large trip and you will get a great deal more milage before you need to fill up


Denny 02-06-08 12:47

My Givi rack/topcase specifies 5kg, but I've carried 3 times that on many occasions. I bet it could easily carry more :nod:

maxwell123455 02-06-08 15:22

The 5kg thing is only a safety thing ive loaded my rear rack up with more than 5kg before. The main worry is once you start loading up the rear rack too much then the handling of the bike will start to feel different that is the main reason for most weigh limits.

Sure if you think about it the wiegh of a topbox and 2 panniers is going to have more effect on the rear rack/sub frame than just an overloaded rear rack


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