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CaptMoto 02-03-10 06:17

What do you think of the XT1200Z Super T�n�r�?
 
Multiple choice poll time ladies and gents.

Let's see what you think, vote and then express your views, thanks.



(pssst... Big Brother from Yamaha is watching)

Tony660x 02-03-10 08:17

I like the 1200Z. I will never own one as adventure RTW is not for me. Too heavy for off road but then I guess this is a comfy road bike really. I think some of the 660's faults have been addressed on this bike but then to be honest I dont think you can compare them.

Worth having in the range if only to give a non BMW option.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 02-03-10 08:52

Capt'n,
There is a choice missing,

-> It doesn't live up to the hype


That would be my choice. Yamaha wound the world up with promises of a desert raider, a RTW bike but the reality is it's just another bike to fit into the GS road warrior bracket, not the KTM challenger all the hype suggested.

Oh, and another choice.

-> Like I'm going to spend �14K on a bike I can't see before I get delivery.

(That is if Mr Yamaha is really interested)

duibhceK 02-03-10 09:35

well, since you're asking.

I prefer the styling of the 660. The ST is just a bit too bulky to my taste. Looks too much like a Varadero as well. And those plastic tank/radiator protectors look very cheap.

The ST will be a cracking long distance tourer on paved roads, I'm sure. But all the "adventure" buzz Yamaha is selling around it is just marketing BS (pardon my French). It's actually just a beefy TDM with a shaft drive and a couple nice electronic gizmo's. But I'm sure its looks will appeal to the Ewan and Charlie fans...

Pricewise it should have been cheaper than the Beemer to really compete with it imho.

Leviathan 02-03-10 09:53

As a GS competitor- I like it.
As a 990 ADV competitor (which is what the hype got me thinking\hoping)- I don't like it.
I won't be buying for the same reason that I won't buy a GS 1200.
The bike just don't fit my needs\wants. And I think that it costs too much.
If Yamaha want to take a big chunk out of the GS market share, they should have priced it cheaper than the GS.

stege 02-03-10 10:36

I think this year Ill just bite the bullet and get me a nice 990 adv white. Im tired of waiting for the perfect bike. The Ten is a great machine but it just doesn't do it for me, my gf and our luggage. Was nice dreaming at S10 though...

Molgan 02-03-10 12:30

If I was going RTW 2-up this would be an option. My initial dissappointment has calmed down a bit, but still, not a bike for me. They could have been brave and covered new grounds with this one, but, probably because of how the market looks atm, they chose to be followers instead of pioneers.

The presentation of the bike reminded me of the hillarious Ipad introduction, where they took a Ipod, made it a bit bigger and called it a revolution.

I hope it becomes a hit.

banksy 02-03-10 22:25

Yamaha have missed a trick with this bike..

If the style of the 660 had been copied and grown in physical size alittle,

Kept the off road abilitys of the 660, slotted in a powerful sub litre parallel twin and kept the bike simple... Then i think yamaha would of struggled to meet demand..

As it is its just another road bike with long travel suspension and off road clothes.

tenyamman 02-03-10 23:26

totally agree with you banksy.
youve hit the nail on the head.

duibhceK 03-03-10 12:38

oh yeah, one more thing.

what's with the "no test rides" nonsense? Does Yamaha seriously expect people to buy the bike without ever having even sat on it. While the direct competitors (GS mainly, but also 990Adv and maybe by extension even some more road-oriented long suspension bikes) can be experienced first hand for a couple of hours before spending 14k GBP.


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