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Old 08-03-15, 07:41
Desert Racer Desert Racer is offline
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Gearbox

Just after knowing if my gearbox is the same as most out there.

Bike is a 11/12 built Tenere registered 10/14, with just over 2000k's on it.

When I change from 2nd to 3rd gear there seems to be a 'clonk' when going into gear rather than a 'click' like the rest of the gears.
I've tried changing slower, letting the rev's drop to idle then change, holding the clutch in for a bit then change, blipping the throttle when changing, adjusting the clutch cable & drive chain but nothing makes much difference.

I did however notice on the first service that the Dealer used Motul 3100 oil not the Forum preferred Motul 5100. Is one oil thicker than the other & would it make much difference?

I hope I'm not on the way to a dog failure like other unfortunate 2009 Tenere owners.

Cheers for now.
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Old 08-03-15, 08:54
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I wouldn't worry too much, your bike is hardly run in! Seriously, we've seen only 7 gearbox failures on this forum and ALL have been 2008 models, and 6/7 have been blue! So statistically speaking, it's highly unlikely to be this.

It could be the oil though? Motul 3100 is slightly more viscous than 5100 despite them both being branded 10w40. Check out the data sheets:

3100 5100

This in itself probably won't make a huge difference, but there is definitely a difference. All the other specs are the same. Interestingly 3100 is not available here in the UK as far as I know.

Did they actually use 10w40, because it also comes in 10w50 and 15w50 too?
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Old 08-03-15, 09:15
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I would hazard a guess that it's the 15-50w stuff as I know he favours the 'Gold' labelled Motul as it doesn't actually say on the invoice.
I'm thinking it's more to do with the average temp being in the high 20degress C's with the choice of viscosity.
Thanks for the quick response & reassurance though Pleiades, it's probably about time you had your own section in the Forum to:-
'Pleiades A to Z on anything & everything in between'

And talking statistics, did you know that apparently 6 out of 7 Dwarfs aren't happy?
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Old 08-03-15, 09:28
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I didn't know that about dwarfs!

To do with viscosity, the important question to ask the dealer is - what was in there before? I appreciate that 15w50 might be more appropriate in your climate than 10w40, but as the problem appears(?) to have reared it's head after an oil change, was there 10w40 or 10w50 in there before? This may explain why things feel different? Speak to your dealer.

As your bike's still under warranty it is worth raising these sort of questions. If (god forbid) you do have a problem later, then if you've raised concerns earlier (within the warranty period) you'll have much more of case should anything happen in the future.

But don't panic!
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Old 08-03-15, 09:41
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And talking statistics, did you know that apparently 6 out of 7 Dwarfs aren't happy?

I beg to differ.... 6 must be "Happy" as theres only one thats "Grumpy"
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Old 08-03-15, 09:52
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No worries, I'll run it by the Dealer next time I'm in for a few accessories.
As far as I'm aware these motor's start life with a 'Thinner' running in oil that's why the first service timing is fairly crucial to get the proper stuff in there.
I walked away from a used XT660R a while back although it was low milage there was no record of servicing & smelt burny hot after a run, the radiator scoop was also damaged, the guy said a bird flew into it, that maybe but what about the tufts of grass still in the bar ends & foot pegs?. Hummm.
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Old 08-03-15, 10:07
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Old 08-03-15, 16:30
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I've tried changing slower, letting the rev's drop to idle then change, holding the clutch in for a bit then change, blipping the throttle when changing, adjusting the clutch cable & drive chain but nothing makes much difference.
Just opposite, try to be faster ...as you can. I have learned this after more than 30000km with my XTR. And a higher revs in second will help too.
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