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Old 16-02-15, 18:50
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Difficult to start 0 rpm

I swapped my fuel map last night and now the bike won't fire without a bit of throttle, so i thought maybe the rpm is a little low, went into the DIAG and low behold the rpm continues to read 0 with the engine running?

Bike was fine before i map swap, but i can't comment on the rpm side of the problem as i've not looked at thr rpm for a while.

i've put in a K&N and removed the snorkel, ran origanally on the 501 map and ran very well, but i saw the 511 map stated the removal of the snorkel and a high flow filter.

as for the rpm, i'm going to check the connectors next to the ecu once i get home but is there anywhere else to check?
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Old 16-02-15, 20:40
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Difficult to start 0 rpm

Have you calibrated the TPS on the Power Commander?
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Old 16-02-15, 20:43
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No never touched it, bu why would that cuase the rpm on the dash to read 0? i've not run the bike yet with the pc suite active so don't now is the pc displaying rpm
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Old 16-02-15, 20:54
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You're right, it shouldn't affect the bike's tachometer, but is is essential to get the throttle position calibrated with the PC. If the PC software is not showing 0% throttle when the throttle is closed and 100% when it's wide open the fuel trims for each rpm band on the PC will not match the bike's actual rpm.

If you run the bike connected to a laptop with PC software running you will also be able to check if the PC is receiving a signal from the crank position sensor.
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Old 16-02-15, 21:01
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ok so i can sort that tomorrow. The TPS calibration was with a warm engine wasn't it? i've seen also there's split opinion on wether to have the engine running or not when doing the calibration and if i remember right the PC instructions didn't specifiy either.

If my memory serves me right when i installed the pc it connected into the crank senor so i will look at the connections there first, are there any other likely areas to look at should everything check out?

would the pc read the rpm, if the circuit wasn't complete, i.e. the pc recieves the signal but somehow it isn't making it to the dash?
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Old 16-02-15, 21:07
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Taken from Power Commander web site:

"We have seen as high as an 8% variation in the throttle position from bike to bike. If yours is not reading “zero” at idle with the motor at normal temperature, then use the following procedure to correct it. In the Power Commander Control Center Software, go to menu “Power Commander Tools” and look for the tool to calibrate the throttle. The bike should always be running when setting the throttle position, as the voltage the sensor sends out can vary between when the bike is at “key on” and “motor running”. The bike also needs to be at fully warmed up to its normal operating temperature. All you need to do is press "reset" while the bike running at idle, then quickly turn the throttle wide open till you hit the mechanical stop, then let go. Next press "Ok". You don't have to rev the bike out, the throttle just needs to go all the way to wide open and then back to idle."

Personally I always do it with the engine running as the circuit voltages are different when the engine is not running. After all you want the PC calibrated to a running engine because that's when you need the PC to do its stuff. Not much call for a Power Commander on a silent engine!
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Old 16-02-15, 21:26
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I can see my neighbors will love me tomorrow, my other thought is it ran perfect on the 501 map so maybe i should revert back to that.
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Old 17-02-15, 01:26
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ok 501 map is back on, started fine. will know for sure when i leave work later on. PC software is seeing the rpm no problem but the DIAG is still not displaying any rpm.

Any thoughts anyone?
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Old 17-02-15, 08:29
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Difficult to start 0 rpm

Interesting? If you're getting an rpm reading on the PC software but not at the dash I'd check the crank position sensor connector as you mentioned. Being a piggyback type, it's possible the the PC's connector (which is first in line to receive a signal) is making good contact but the ECU one isn't? Maybe it's not snapped together fully?

But then, you wouldn't expect the bike to run if the ECU wasn't receiving a signal from the crank position sensor? Very strange.

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Old 17-02-15, 11:02
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Can you unplug & remove your Dynojet O2 optimizer & reconnect the OEM O2 back to standard & report back?
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