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Old 26-11-14, 11:16
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AJP PR7 a new XT Powered �Adventure Bike�

Saw rumours of this a while ago but looks like it�s going ahead so thought I�d share as it�s got the 660 Minarelli XT Motor.

Can�t say I like the styling but spec wise it looks a very capable off road bike.

Company blurb below��

Aware of the market evolution, AJP decided that it's new model should gather the best of both worlds, giving the travellers and adventurers an alternative that represents all the DNA and know-how of the brand in the off-road, a bike capable of a great handling and riding pleasure in the toughest terrains, but also able to provide comfort, good mileage and versatility.


With 1532mm of wheelbase, 300mm of ground clearance and 26,5 degrees of rake, the AJP PR7 is a must in terms of suspensions, showing a sturdy Marzocchi inverted front fork with full adjustability, 48mm inner tubes and a generous stroke of 300mm. That's why we say this is a real trail bike with real off-road heritage. On the rear, the cast aluminium swinging arm is another trademark of the brand and it's progressive linkage takes full advantage of the piggy-back rear Ohlins shock, giving 280mm of travel to the axel.


Overall dimensions are compact and everybody knows how important is to have a bike where you feel at home when riding on your foot. This is possible because like in all other AJP models, the fuel tank is located under the seat, creating a narrow line but also mass centralization and not


Estimated dry weight will be under 155kg.


The AJP PR7 will be available in the end of 2015 / early 2016.














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Old 26-11-14, 23:38
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Looks the biss and if it's got an xt motor with a good air box setup and that dry weight figure sounds like it could be a nice bike
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Old 27-11-14, 09:41
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That could be a problem. If you have ever seen in the flesh an AJP, the fuel tank is where the air filter box on a Tenere is, and we all know that the air box is important to these engines.
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Old 27-11-14, 15:00
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Interesting

I'm watching this one with interest too. Could be ideal for what I want. I love my Tenere ands it's doing a good job for me, but it is heavy for what it is and the suspension is lacking. A lighter, better suspended version would be great.
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Old 27-11-14, 23:22
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That could be a problem. If you have ever seen in the flesh an AJP, the fuel tank is where the air filter box on a Tenere is, and we all know that the air box is important to these engines.
With the fuel tank sitting low under the seat, the false tank on the AJP is likely to be mostly airbox. I would imagine the airbox is therefore quite probably bigger than the Ten's? The other big advantage of this arrangement is that it's much higher up, so less likely to suck in water off-road.
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Old 28-11-14, 00:24
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With the fuel tank sitting low under the seat, the false tank on the AJP is likely to be mostly airbox. I would imagine the airbox is therefore quite probably bigger than the Ten's? The other big advantage of this arrangement is that it's much higher up, so less likely to suck in water off-road.

That is true but with it's position it would need to have a serious bend in the pipe coming off the throttle body to the air box witch would prob be a big restriction as well.
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Old 28-11-14, 09:56
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There are a couple of things about this bike that strike me as, maybe not concerning, or worrying but worthy of further consideration;

The tank, er, what tank? either way it's very small. So we aren't talking about a bike with any real range. And little options to replace with a larger tank from the likes of Acerbis

Luggage ?? It doesn't have any starting point for luggage capability. In fact it doesn't look to have any rear end support at all.

The clear upper fairing, no, that's just going to look worn out and dated after the first muddy ride. Easily sorted though with a vinyl wrap or paint, or maybe they'll produce it in a solid form.

It has the outward look and feel of something that would suit a traveler, but lacks the practicalities needed. The instrument panel looks like a node to GPS/Roadbook placement but without the ability to cover distance what's the point? It's not going to make it as a racer, there are other bikes that are better suited.

I hope whatever incarnation they bring to market is more practical, it has to be or it won't sell in the numbers needed, and that makes me sad because it's nice to see the mainstay of the big marques getting some competition. Lets hope they don't have the same nightmare that CCM have had.
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Old 28-11-14, 09:59
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Exhaust

It's hard to say on the fuel tank size, but if it incorporates those side panels as it looks to I would imagine you could in fact create a pretty decent size tank. Not 30 litres, but I would have thought 20 might be possible and that would be plenty for the vast majority of people.

The rear end is going to need some thought though. That current design, with the silencer fully on the outside of the swing arm, is going to leave the silencer very vulnerable to damage when the bike is dropped and looks like it will be a problem for luggage, especially soft bags without frames. I think they'll need to find a way to tuck that in and also ensure the sub frame is up to the job for luggage etc. But apart from that, I quite like it.

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Old 28-11-14, 14:22
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Tank holds 17 liters.
Layout is the same as 690 so similar luggage options should be possible.
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Old 27-02-15, 04:14
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AJjP PR7. 660 cc Adventure bike.

Well I really think this thread needs bumping up. This is the new info about this bike. Maybe the 660 motor will enjoy a big resurgence if this bike is popular, which I think it should be. It seems to be that which people are asking for, a mid sized, capable and not too expensive (we'll see!) Adventure bike. And how reliable is the motor and gearbox going to be!!!!!
I see this as a good replacement for my XT660R one day when I get ready to move on.

Coming to Oz in 2015. But I did see 2016 somewhere?

http://www.ajpaustralia.com.au/ An old Spanish or Portugese make?

They have a range of smaller enduro styles bikes, seem to be priced much less than the KTM, perhaps a type of bike in between the DRZ400 and the KTM EXC range. Possibly more like what most of us really need (not want?)

But this PR7 is what I like. It has the Minarelli 660cc engine that has been in Raptors and the mighty XTs and is pretty well indestructible (albeit needing some minor mods to overcome that asphyxiating Euro emissions standard), but can also be souped right up quite well as we all know from this site.


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The perfect adventure bike for touring Australia, whether it's across the centre or straight down the highway.


Features:

  • Mikuni EFI
  • Well recognised and highly regarded Minarelli 660cc single cylinder, liquid cooled, engine
  • Fully adjustable Marzocchi 48mm forks, 300mm of travel
  • Fully adjustable Ohlins shock with 280mm of travel
  • Less than 155kg dry weight
  • 21 inch and 18 inch wheel set
  • 17 litre under seat fuel cell for low weight distribution
  • Doma high performance pipe


And more from a press release:

Some of which wouldn't copy, so original is here: http://dfsm9194vna0o.cloudfront.net/...essrelease.pdf



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Off-*‐
AJP, the Portuguese off-*
This new model creates
The trail segment has been one of the most dynamics in the last years, not only in terms of sales
growth, but also because the number of models developed and launched in a recent past by the
major manufacturers confirmed that the motorcycle community is open to new proposals.
Aware of this m
worlds, giving the travelers and adventurers an alternative that represents all the DNA and know-*‐
how of the brand in the off-*‐road, a bike capable of a great handling and riding pleasure in the
toughest terrains, but also able to provide comfort, good mileage and versatility.
This is possible because AJP developed for the PR7 the new generation of the proved hybrid frame
made of aluminium and steel, now even lighter, compact and rigid, using two lightweight twin spars
bolted to the compact steering head that is used also as an oil reservoir.
With 1532mm of wheelbase, 300mm of ground clearance and 26,5 degrees of rake, the AJP PR7 is a
must in terms of suspensions, showing a sturdy Marzocchi inverted front fork with full adjustability,
l trail bike with
real off-*‐road heritage. On the rear, the cast aluminium swinging arm is another trademark of the
-*‐back rear Ohlins shock, giving
280mm of travel to the axel.
Brakes are well dimensioned with a 300mm front disc operated by a two piston caliper, and a
240mm rear rotor, allowing for a good power on the tarmac, but specially ease of use and a great
feel on the dirt.
Overall dimensions are compact and everybody knows how important is to have a bike where you
feel at home when riding on your foot. This is possible because like in all other AJP models, the fuel
tank is located under the seat, creating a narrow line but also mass centralization and not reducing
the tank capacity, with a total of 17 liters of the precious liquid. The fuel cap will be located under
the seat.
Estimated dry weight will be under 155kg, on a bike designed to conquer mountains or deserts all
over the world, using the traditional wheels of a mid-*‐size trail (90/90-*‐21 and 140/80-*‐18 tires, front
and rear respectively), built with the very best materials in terms of spokes, rims and hubs.
The engine used to power the PR7 is the proved Minarelli single cylinder four stroke with a capacity
of 659,7cc, liquid cooled and electronic fuel injection via a 44mm Mikuni throttle body. Peak power
of 48hp is obtained @ 6000rpm and with 58Nm of torque @ 5500rpm this is a power unit capable of
good acceleration from low to middle rpm, an immediate punch that transforms all obstacles into
amusement but without compromising traction or the overall balance of the bike.
The AJP PR7 will be available in the end of 2015.
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