Hi, my Ten had HID lights fitted when I bought it. They blinded everybody on dip and there was a lull between dip and main of about 3 seconds, complete darkness. So I put the originals back on. On the whole I'm pleased with the result. What I would like to know is, is it possible to rewire the loom so that the dip stays on when switching to main?
I ride all year and mostly on country lanes. I have Touratech spots which are wired to dip, giving me a good close up vision but lose all that fill when switching to main beam. If the spots and dip stayed on when switching to main, things would be just about perfect!!
Thanks in advance.

Yes it is possible. It's an easy mod, free to do and makes the world of difference.

Read this.

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I'm planning to do that mod tomorrow, plus fit some Vision X spots.

I'm thinking of using the accessory connection (brown and black wires) under the small cover below the clocks; I believe it's part of the side/tail light circuit. Can I run two Vision X spots and a sat nav from this?

Yes. A pair of Vision X spots draws about 1.6A at battery voltage and most sat nav's peak at about 2A (when charging from completely flat internal battery) but maintain charge at a few hundred mA (check the spec in the user manual). Fit a 5A inline fuse to the brown wire of the connector feeding your spots/gps, so if the accessories (or their wiring) fails, your sidelights and indicators will still work.

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thanks Pleiades; there's not much free cable coming off the loom before the connector, do you have a solution? Is there a matching connector block I can buy to extend the wiring?

These connectors are as rare rocking horse sh!t - I don't know of anyone who's actually managed to source one? Easiest thing to do is cut it off and replace it with a standard 2-way snap connector (what I did) or, alternatively, use mini blades to push onto the existing connector's terminals. You could solder/heat shrink longer tails on if you wanted more slack.

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thanks Pleiades

@Pleiades: I've got them from this set: https://www.louis.de/artikel/elektrikstecker-set-108-tlg/10003843?list=134643186&filter_article_number=1000 3843
But there are only 2 2-pin's in it.

Or is these already your solution to use them instead of the original ones?

cheers, Andy

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2008 660Z with many many mods
1985 600Z in white/red with nearly no mods
1992 TT600 59X in black for the real dirt

Hi Pleiades, thanks for the info. As I'm already running Touratech spots ( wired to dip) , and heated grips, am I likely to run into charging problems following this rewire? At the moment, as I'm working shifts, I ride in the dark a lot.

When you say you have the Touratech spotlights wired into dip beam, do you mean they are wired directly into the dip circuit (I hope not), or that the dip circuit provides a trigger for a relay and the load for the spotlights comes from the battery. If it is the former, then you are already pushing the boundaries of the headlamp circuit as 2x55W spots and 1x 55W dip beam is going to a total current of 12-14A (depending on charging voltage). Although the headlamp circuit is fused at 20A, the wiring used is 1mm sq. 32/0.20 cable which is only rated at 16.5A so 16A would be a realistic absolute maximum current to consume, which begs the question why Yamaha would chose to fit a 20A fuse when 16A would have been more appropriate? Wiring main and dip together with this set up will tip things over the edge. If you are using a relay and separating the load, then the headlamp circuit will be able to cope with wiring dip and main together, but you’re going to be right at the absolute limit of the alternator’s charging capacity itself, especially considering what’s needed just to run the bike and all the other accessories you have fitted.

Have a read of this thread regarding the charging capacity of the XTZ.

TBH the Touratech spots are a bit old hat now; you can as much, if not more light from LED spots at a fraction of the cost in terms of money and current draw. I would seriously consider ditching the TT spots in favour of some LED lamps. TT spotlights still go for good money on ebay and would easily provide enough capital to purchase a pair of LED lamps and you’d have some spare cash and LOT of spare Amps left over to play with!

Some food for thought…

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