Home

Go Back   .: XT660.com - The #1 XT660 Resource :. > XT660Z T�n�r� > XT660Z T�n�r� General Discussions
FAQ Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Main site

Google

XT660Z T�n�r� General Discussions Everything and anything of general topic in relation to the new T�n�r� is discussed here

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  # 11  
Old 17-06-13, 22:38
Pleiades Pleiades is offline
XT-Moto SuperStar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: North Norfolk
Posts: 5,320
Pleiades is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by marques View Post
Dear pleiades

What i am having are hard time to clarify in my head is the kind of conflicting process of the following point.


1Push the lever as far forward as you can and align the points in this positon.

2then attach the cable.

Finally align the points so that they align when no force is appled (the lever is in the opposite position to that of when it was aligned in 1)
The release arm (let's not call it a lever as that's confusing!), when the cover is fitted, should be aligned by the punch marks with no cable attached and pushed forward with your finger. Pushing it forward with you finger just takes up the slack that the release arm spring creates as it wants to pull the arm back. It is also a visual identifier that the clutch is at the last point at which it will be engaged; any further forward movement in the arm will start to disengage the clutch plates.

When you fit the cable, hold the release arm so it stays aligned by its punch marks (which you have already set in 1). That will then give you a good starting point to adjust the clutch free play as you know that the actuating mechanism is right on the point of engagement/disengagement.
  # 12  
Old 18-06-13, 10:12
marques marques is offline
Expert XT-Moto
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kagoshima
Posts: 238
marques is on a distinguished road
Went bAck into the forest for the fourth time and still no joy. The time of work is killing my family and leaving my new bike in the middle of no where is terrible.
And to be honest im loosing faith.

Took out the new clutch and luckily it looks all new and healthy. Also in the right order. Damper spring facing out. However my service manual differs from peilates advice and says only the last plate punch marks should be in notch d.

Also": T3|T1|T1|T2|T2|T1|T1. The T1 plates notched tabs should fit into the right hand one of the two slots marked with triangles (the clutch housing should be rotated to get these slots at the top before you start"

The last sentence quoted to rotate the slots to the top. I could not do.
Be grateful for any help
  # 13  
Old 18-06-13, 11:16
jimf jimf is offline
SemiPro XT-Moto
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ashington
Posts: 54
jimf is on a distinguished road
Unfortunately I have not had an xt clutch apart but you should be able to rotate the basket with the spark plug out so there is no compression on the engine and flick the starter button to bring it round or stick the bike in top gear and rock the back wheel, its possible to move the basket other ways but if you lever it with something they are pretty fragile and you risk breaking something. hopefully Pleiades will be along with a better description as he seems to have more knowledge on this engine.
Best Regards,
Jim.
  # 14  
Old 18-06-13, 11:37
Kev's Avatar
Kev Kev is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 6,063
Kev is on a distinguished road
Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words.




__________________
Click here to join the XT Supporter's scheme

Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
[
My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946

  # 15  
Old 18-06-13, 12:33
marques marques is offline
Expert XT-Moto
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kagoshima
Posts: 238
marques is on a distinguished road
Here is the current situation that I left my bike in. Checked new clutch plates etc were In the right order. Followed the advice of pleiades and adjusted the release arm lever, at the same time changed the oil filter.

The adjustment of the Release Arm lever made the rear wheel turn A little bit faster which was reassuring. But alas after hours of tampering the sun going down I had to get out the forest very disappointingly. I could still stop the rear wheel with the slightest touch of my foot while it was revving high in first gear.
  # 16  
Old 18-06-13, 12:43
marques marques is offline
Expert XT-Moto
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kagoshima
Posts: 238
marques is on a distinguished road
Yeah thanks Kev. I bought the same manual of you a few weeks ago I referred to it all the time As well as the advice of jim and pleiades but no break through. I am seriously thinking i will have to give up on the nicest and most expensive item i have ever owned. Freaking out. No break threw and running out of time.
Sponsored Links
  # 17  
Old 18-06-13, 12:55
marques marques is offline
Expert XT-Moto
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kagoshima
Posts: 238
marques is on a distinguished road
By the way on the final adjustment the clutch went really tight on both the Rear arm and the handlebar lever.
  # 18  
Old 18-06-13, 13:01
Pleiades Pleiades is offline
XT-Moto SuperStar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: North Norfolk
Posts: 5,320
Pleiades is on a distinguished road
Just a thought - Why not do a test to see if the clutch is assembled correctly and will actually bite? The following test should highlight whether it is the clutch pack assembly itself, or the operating mechanism...

Remove the clutch cable completely and the let the release arm go slack (so it isn't doing anything). Stick the bike in first, make sure the back wheel is clear of the ground, start it (you'll obviously have to hold the clutch lever even though there's no cable attached as its in gear), and see if you have drive.

If you do: the clutch pack is assembled correctly and and the problem lies with the release arm/cable/lever adjustment and alignment.

If you don't: The cluch assembly is at fault and will need another look.
  # 19  
Old 18-06-13, 13:10
Kev's Avatar
Kev Kev is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 6,063
Kev is on a distinguished road
Do you have any photos of the clutch been assembled?

In my 33 years of working on bikes I have never seen or heard of a brand new clutch pack burn out as you describe. If there is no drive through the clutch pack it could be assembled incorrectly, if the spring tensions are incorrect the clutch pack is not pulled together tightly so causes a slip, is there free play in the clutch lever at the gear box end to release bearing which will cause the clutch pack to have no tension so slips. Are you sure that the outer clutch hub is lined up correctly with the inner hub grooves if not the clutch puck will have no tension? Is the clutch cable seized causing the clutch to slip.

These XT's do not suffer from clutch problems in their standard form.

You say the clutch is assembled correctly & the spring tensions are correct, if it is it would not slip.
__________________
Click here to join the XT Supporter's scheme

Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
[
My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946


Last edited by Kev; 18-06-13 at 13:18.
  # 20  
Old 18-06-13, 13:11
marques marques is offline
Expert XT-Moto
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Kagoshima
Posts: 238
marques is on a distinguished road
That sounds like a great idea. So I unlink the clutch cable from the rear arm. Put the bike in first and then start the engine. If the cable and the release arm are not attached why do i need to use the handlebar lever.
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:55.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

  XT660         Archive   Main site


Footer
vBSkinworks Top