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Old 11-12-08, 21:47
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Cush drive already......

I thought as much.... with not even 2000 mile on the clock, the cush drive and sprocket carrier bearing is shot.
This has been a bugbear of mine and I have expected this from day one.
In Capt Motos poll I mentioned in 'my wants' an 18" wheel with no cush drive for this reason.
Now I have the catalyst in my head to source this mod............
I'd like to keep the rim but have a fixed type sprocket/hub arrangement. If you have experience of such a mod, please contact me with some info, thanks.

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Old 12-12-08, 09:24
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Thats crap, what have Yamaha said they will do about it ?

I like the 18 rear idea opens up a better choice of tyres.
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Old 12-12-08, 09:50
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2000 miles thats a bit bad ! The XTX/R isnt even that bad. I wonder could it be to do with the fact the Tenere is carrying more weight, therefore more force going through the crush drive rubbers??

I dont think yamaha will do much apart from say its a part that is suppose to wear out and should be replaced as and when needed.
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Old 12-12-08, 09:59
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with not even 2000 mile on the clock, the cush drive and sprocket carrier bearing is shot.
How do you tell ? without taking the thing to bits I mean, how do you know from a riders perspective, what are the signs, tell tails etc??

I only ask as with over 10,000 miles on the bike, 90% of those fully loaded I'm not seeing anything un-toward....
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Old 12-12-08, 11:07
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How do you tell ? without taking the thing to bits I mean, how do you know from a riders perspective, what are the signs, tell tails etc??

The sprocket carrier can move radially without the wheel hub moving. There is also play in the SC bearing.
I don't think Yamaha will give me any joy, as rubbers are sacraficial/wearing parts so it is expected, so I'll not even ask. I don't like rocking the boat....

At the last tyre change I had noticed a 'flaking' of the rubbers, it maybe worth you guys keeping tabs on yours.

I'll do a change on them next week and let you know. It will have new bearing fitted also whilst I'm there.

Right, I'm off to Liverpool for a pint or two......

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Old 12-12-08, 11:10
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I had a look after about 1000miles and was surprised the rubbers did look a bit tatty, with some rubber 'dust' in the hub.

It all bolted back together nice and tight so not a problem at the moment, something to keep any eye on though.
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Old 12-12-08, 12:42
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Once the sprocket rubbers have been compress after a few thousand miles, you will find because of only using a single ball bearing in the carrier there would be small sideways movement in the carrier.

Remove the sprocket carrier, place the rear axle shaft through the carrier bearing, then see how much free play there is, then compare it to a new bearing. If it has worn out at that milage then this would be classed as premuture failure.
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

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Old 12-12-08, 13:06
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Is it an idea to lube the rubber with WD40 or such , would this stop the rubbers tearing ?
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Old 12-12-08, 13:18
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Is it an idea to lube the rubber with WD40 or such , would this stop the rubbers tearing ?
No not at all, they must be kept away from oil & contaminants.

The rubber part that usually tears is only the support strap that holds the rubbers in place to make it easy to insert the sprocket holder. There will be a small amount of rubber dust or small partiticals in the hub, this is normal after a few thousand miles.
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946


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Old 12-12-08, 15:45
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Timpo, you did a lot of offroad ridin', maybe that's the cause? I guess with normal street ridin', it won't go that fast? But on the other hand, 2000miles is way too fast! I'll keep an eye on them, thanx. Let us know what your dealer had to say in this matter. Greetz, Hans.
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