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Old 16-04-13, 13:53
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Rekluse clutch in a XTR...

I have just ordered a WR450 EXP Rekluse auto clutch to put
in the XTR... After a lot of part number checking it turns
out the WR450 & XTR share the same fricton plates...
Part #5TA-16321-00
The Rekluse core EXP insert is a copy of the friction plate
just a lot thicker...

with the core EXP clutch you have a auto clutch as well as
still retaining the manual oparation... rev the motor so the
auto insert exspands & tightens the clutch stack then you
can use the manual clutch pretty much as normal...
Be interesting to see if the gamble works out.. $649nz

Pic is of a XR650R unit... they also make a units for the KTM 690 & 990
so the power out put of the XTR isn't a issue....there is diffrent weight wedges
so there might be a bit of playing around needed...

I have a lot of work ahead of me on it over the winter.... Showa USD forks to
go in.. Still waiting for them to come back after a re-valve/re-spring..
Ohlins rear shock... waiting for new discs to show up... wave rotor on the rear
& a 320mm wave rotor for the front.. still got to order a rally raid front fairing..
It will be a totaly diffrent bike when it rolls out of the shed...
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Old 16-04-13, 15:52
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That's some serious pimping. Good luck with it.

Just don't spend half a day trying to ever bump start the bike once it is installed.

I had a darn good laugh hearing some friends explain they had tried bumpstarting a 640 KaTooM for about 45 minutes until they realized there wasn't much point with that clutch
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Old 18-04-13, 07:51
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To bump start with a Rekluse.. Let the clutch cable off
so theres free play at the lever/perch...... It has arrived
sitting here reading the instructions.....
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Old 20-04-13, 02:42
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The WR450 Rekluse EXP auto insert in the XTR clutch basket..
Can't try it till I get a few clutch cover gaskets... may have to open it up
a few times to play with the tuneing , springs/wedge weight...
Rekluse surpply 3 diffrent sets of springs with it..they make heavyer & lighter wedges...


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Old 20-04-13, 04:41
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What was your reasoning in fitting this clutch? I have never seen or used one of these types of clutch's.
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Old 20-04-13, 04:51
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Quote:
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What was your reasoning in fitting this clutch? I have never seen or used one of these types of clutch's.
Terrain like this.. I ride in some very gnarly places at times.... these scree slides can be
100s metres across with deep water channels..sometime yer can't ride straight across them..
yer got to ride up/down to find a rideable route... why my bikes look so 2nd hand..lol
The option of a full auto or manual clutch in one could be a blessing..
Could say a 660cc Postie bike




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Old 12-05-14, 07:56
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Still very much contemplating the clutch pretend and thanks for all the input. What rev range does the clutch engage and disengage at. And what difference did the stronger springs make to that. I'm wanna those riders who likes to plod when he can. And finally (I know you haven't tried yet but difference would u expect the heavier wedges would make to the aforementioned figures.
(It's gonna be difficult to get the money from the misses for this one).
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Old 12-05-14, 11:02
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that can be adjusted... springs / wedge weight...
Rekluse say there should be a very slight drag at idle
but not enough to move the bike foward... But because
I use it on the road " intersections etc" i set mine just above that
so you can't feel any drag...
So the bike is wanting to move at 200 / 300 rpm above idle...

Full disengaugement would be about the same... when the clutch speed drops
low enough for the clutch springs to over ride the centafugle force of the
weights...

stonger springs .. the clutch stack works against the spring just as in a
normal manual clutch..
when rideing you can see the clutch lever play increase as the Rekluse unit
exspands & compresses the clutch springs...

how the Auto / manual works in one unit...
EG... Say you are able to open the clutch stack 5mm by pulling the lever
but the rekluse unit can only exspand 3mm .. so holding the clutch lever in
and rev the motor the Rekluse unit exspands 3mm but the stack is open 5mm
So still has 2mm of clearance so no drive... Then let the clutch lever out and the clutch engages just as in a normal clutch... same when moveing pull the
clutch lever & you exspand the clutch stack more than the Rekluse unit can exspand , So no drive...

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Old 13-05-14, 14:36
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Thanks good info.
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Old 14-05-14, 07:38
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Another unit is the "rev lock dyna ring" works like the Rekluse EXP...
But uses 30 ball bearing that travel in tappered slots instead of the
6 wedge shaped weights Rekluse use...

the rev lock can be tuned by the amount of balls you use to alter the
weight.. & you can also put tunstion balls in which are heavyer than steel balls..

I would like to get my hands on one... they sound very tuneable..
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