Hi !

First of all thanks for good reading and information in this site.

Just got myself a 09 Black Tenere with Yamaha sidecases and handguards with under 3000 km on the display.

I have ridden alot of adventure bikes so far :KTM 950,Varadero,BMW 1200 Adv,Africa Twin,Transalp,BMW 800 GS

I sold my last bike and bought the Tenere to have a inexpensive bike. Better then "no bike"..

After a few weeks the bike suprise me with stability and good road behavior. Same fun as the more expensive and powerful bikes.

Anyway, my question. I am looking for a aftermarked pipes. For look and maybe save some kilos.

After mailing with "GPR exhaust systems" they have provided me with following information their Aluminium system:

- weight aprox 2,5 kilo
- repack every 5000 KM aprox
- no need for remap/power commander.
- comes with on-road "muffler" (removable)
- price aprox 400 pund delivered to door ex VAT (non Eu country)
-minimal change in gassoline usage

Anyone with experience on this exhaust system ? good/bad ? I would love to save some kilos and get a little more "ralley" look.

any chance that only changing the exhaust system will give me a little more power in the bottom (2500-3500 RPm) ?

They do look good, but why repack them every 5000kms, that is no good.

The most gain we see from exhaust systems is around 2 to 2.5 HP, you get this gain from mid to top end 3500 up wards. If you want better pull from the very bottom end fit a 14T front sprocket, or a 46/47 rear sprocket if you still run on the highway at times.

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My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

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repack every 5k !!! so that's about every....... 2/3 month

what's the associated cost ? can it be done by the owner ?

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That suprised me as well. Don't know if it is needed under "normal circumstances" Maybe for 5k hard offroad driving only ? I have sent a question to the supplier about that.

As far as I know repacking is simple and gives back the "optimal" resistance in the exhaust witch is was ment for.

Thanks for the tip. Does that mean that it's possible to loose some power in the low RPM's when going from stock to 3.party exhaust systems ?

Most of the time I am on "B-roads" 75-90 km/h. That means 2900-4000 RPM in fifth gear.

I am looking for a little more power when driving by cars, accelerating etc. maybe Powercommander and DNA is the only solution ?

Regarding the "repack" of exhast. Some producers give information about repacking, some does not. Is this due to different "build" or is it simply the fact that some producers don't see this as good advertisment.

As far as I know original exhaust don't need re-packing.

That's pretty much the same type of roads I ride, and to be honest for less than �400 you can get a Powercommander V and a DNA filter for the bike, this gives you the power you want to pass cars. I have the same requirements as you.

You can get the PowerCommander through Simon (on here) for a very good price already setup with a map for the DNA filter. I takes about an hour of so to fit to the bike (depending on your own skill) but the effects are very noticable.

As Kev says, a 14t front sprocket (�13 from www.wemoto.com) will give you some more bottom end, I'll let you know how this works with the PC-V after I've had a chance to fit it! I am anticipating another quatum leap in power delivery as it's already much more responsive with the PC & DNA

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All absorption silencers will need repacking at various stages to maintain their efficiency. 5000 miles doesn't seem a lot to me.
2.5kg for a twin silencer system is impressive, especially including the link pipe...given that the LV system weighs close to 9kg and is also ally.
My single titanium race silencer weighs in at 1.4kg, so I'd check that they aren't just weighing a single silencer.

that 5000km approx, (3000 miles). I do that in less than 3 month.

I've honestly never "repacked" a silencer so i do not exactly know what it does involve (opening the can, removing the stuff, stuffing back stuff (glass wool thingy ?), closing the can)

I do not think it is very complicated/long, after all I can replace clutch plates, change chain and sprockets and other stuff... but it's just the hassle. But hey, maybe it's just a simple thing in comparison of the weight gain/increased throttle response/nicer sound ?

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Hi ! have decided to go for the Kev fuel mod and DNA filters. Looking forward to get the stuff.

As far as I can see there is not much weight gain in any 3.party exhaust change. On my KTM I saved a lot of kilos going from stock to Acrapovic.

Cheers

Guys,

what sort of gain are we talking about by installing fuel mod and DNA filters while keeping stock exhaust? and I dont only mean in terms of numbers but mostly in real life experience.

Cheers