This is a user review I read on MCN.
I would just like to hear the communities thoughts on it.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bi...?&R=EPI-100478

I had a race bike they all said was fantastic and the bees knees but I hated it and sold it in 5 weeks of owning it. Like all reviews its very subjective and the Tenere is the best bike I have had. Would I change it? Nope definately not it does all i want and more.

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Previous bikes:TS50 - RD125LC - XT250 - ZXR750L3 - BMW 650 Funduro - BMW 1100GS - XT660Z Tenere

I had a go on my brother-in-laws Kwacker ZX9 while he had a go on my XTX and I'm glad we didn't go far. It may be a fantastic bike the ZX but not for me. I do feel so much more in control of the XT especially when the weathers crap. To the guy who wrote into MCN, does he thinks all the Ten owners on this site are pulling the wool over their own eyes. I dont think so.

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yeah that is that sad bloke that emailed me the exact same piece of sorry ass crap, he did say he would write to MCN (More Crap than News) good luck to him...

Next?

Well I like my Tenere!

Had a WR 450 F as well and that was for sure a quality bit of kit, but it's a race bike designed for Enduro racing - exotic materials and lightweight - very nice.

I've also had 350 LC's/Power Valve/250 LC/TDR 250/FZ/FZR - all Yam's and quality - if a little prone to going bang back in the 80s/90s.

As for the engine bars - is this a known fault or was it crash damage, perhaps a loose bolt?

I don't think Mr Rossi or Mr Spies would say their Yam's are anything other than spot on.

I suggest that us Ten' owners actually have more than a bit of brain!

OK, Everyone is entitled to thier opinion. But actually taking thier time to write to a paper after they have sold the bike is a bit wierd. Normally any halfway intelligent person would use this to force Yamaha into action regarding the engine bars and bash plate. Presumably he had already been to his dealer..... Mine was replace on warrenty without question ! In fact Yamaha have been very good on that front. I know ZUo is having problems, but his case is compounded by being in a different country to the supplier

It's very clear that this guy has no clue about singles, of course that make a noise ! Doh (P).

Not built to last ? Eh ??? There are plenty of folk (or should that be Forks) on here with many many miles on the clock, Jesus, Jenny took a 25K bike and rode the Heroes, and was in fact the only bike to actually ride the entire route! Scottnet has taken his RTW...... I would agree, these bikes are really not built for the long haul are they....

So they guy is now happy with a ST...... that's not realy a bike in the same league is it?.... He sound like the sort of guy who can't talk to someone and get a problem resolved, I think it's more a personality issue.

and finally,

Who are all these 'folk' making a noise around his bike........

That said, the fact he has taken the time to write to MNC shows how much he really knows about motorcycling. It is after all the favourite crap house mag of the Weekend Road Warriors, Sunny Sunday Brigade and Power Rangers. Real Motorcyclist take a balanced view and accept that someday you will find a bike that just doesn't fit you.


Tenere -> Best bike I've had so far....

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I can't really think of a reasoned response, but will try. The Tenere is not without it's faults. I'd be lying if I said it didn't have some. BUT am I able to realise that no bike is perfect, and they can be addressed. My engine bars cracked, along with others. I was pursuing a warranty claim but managed to throw the bike down the road at ca. 50mph in the meantime. The bars still managed to save the engine, and I'll repair the crack myself now. The quality of SOME of the fasteners is a bit crappy, but that's not limited to Yamaha.
The quality of the (to me) important parts; frame, engine, tank, wheels appears to be doing ok. The bike IS built to a budget, hence why it's cheap. With that comes the realisation that parts will have suffered the accountants hand. If you are really bothered about those parts, they can be replaced; shock absorber and handlebars for example. Other consumable parts such a the chain are also an easy replacement. The bike will feel better for them, but it's not a necessity. I've held onto mine for over 11,000 miles now of almost everyday use. It replaced a Hayabusa that I held onto for 3 months/3000 miles. I'd say it's doing ok.

I thought long and hard about whether to post my thoughts and observations on this thread, so as not to risk upsetting any of the many special people on this forum. Then I thought to hell with it, we're all adults. My tuppence worth is this:
- WE all know how good the Tenere is. I think we've all felt a little anger about the things said (which is interesting in its own right and worth contemplating and discussing) We can be a defensive and protective lot! I think the more annoying part is that it MAY (as in might) sway potential buyers away from the bike - I'm presuming that it appears in MCN's bike reviews, used by some readers to help inform choice of bike?
- I do get a little worried when we start using this term 'real biker'. It's usually taken to mean riding all year round, rather than dry, summer, Sunday runs only. I think there is a danger in this way of thinking. When does a 'biker' become a 'real biker'? Might it sow the seeds of alienation if we start suggesting that you have to ride year through and only on an adventure bike to have credibility? Just food for thought - I'd be interested to hear people's opinions. Personally, I ride all the year and cover approximately over 20,000 miles each year, over many different countries. I don't think that makes anyone who doesn't (a lot of you I'd guess) any less of a biker.We run a bike tours business and often have customers who are relatively new to the biking world, together with people who wheel their machine out once or twice a year for a holiday. Spending time with them leads me to believe they are every bit as passionate about bikes and biking as anyone else, just express it a little differently.

Anyway, over to you ..... I'm off to prepare a little DR250 for a 600 mile round trip to the UK and back to Germany .... and it's minus 12c here, with lots of snow and ice!

I get worried by the term 'real biker' too. I get worried because it means that people have already lost the knowledge that a bike is a mode of transport, same as many others that use the highways and byways. You don't call someone who does a lot of car miles a 'real driver' do you? I think the idea that you can only do it on an 'adventure bike' is preposterous (not a dig at you, just bouncing back your point), as I just said, a bike is a tool. Now a particular design of that tool may lend itself better to certain activities than other designs, but that doesn't mean they can't both do the same job. I would hope that people aren't so blinkered that they can't see the Tenere isn't perfect, but for me, it's ironing out those imperfections or coming to adapt to them, that make owning a bike more enjoyable in the long term.

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However when I use the expression 'real biker' I am referring to the ones who DONT wheel their bikes out on a sunny Sunday and then ride like useless tw&ts nearly killing us in the process because they feel they are equal to Valantino Rossi. I along with other members on this forum experienced such bad riding last year that endangered both me and my partner! Real bikers use their chosen style of bike(s) as both a favoured mode of transport and something to cherrish and adore. The riders I have in mind use the bike as a means of creating an addrenilin induced buzz with scant regard for their own or anybody elses safety. Ride in the Yorkshire Dales and other such areas and you will understand what I mean!

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I've thought long and hard about commenting on some of the posts made regarding 'real bikers' and decided that I need to put another slant on the matter:

I ride my Tenere right through the year not only because it's a laugh to ride but because the power delivery is so soft that it's never going to cause me any anguish on a damp road.

I've also got an old BMW K100 outfit that I take great pleasure in riding along in a straight line with the chair wheel 12" off the road. Now some would say that I'm irresponsible for doing this but I'd counter that I do it because I can.

I've also got a heavily modified '05 Kawasaki ZX10R that I doubt if I'll ever sell because they just don't make bikes as stupid as that any more.

I don't see the point in having a pop at anyone who rides a bike because even if they only do 250 miles on sunny days they're still a 'biker' as far as I'm concerned. I must look like everyones worst nightmare when I get off my Kawasaki because I'm the middle aged bloke that so many people complain about but I've ridden bikes continuously for the last 34 years (including several years of racing at a reasonable level) and I'd argue that I can actually ride a motorbike fairly well.

I'm not trying to start an arguement, I'm just trying to make the point that we're all riding bikes for different reasons but none of those reasons make us more of a biker than any other person you see riding a bike.