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oil drain pipe from airbox
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Is it usual for the air box drain pipe to need to be emptied every 4-500miles as i have to do? |
aye thay all seem to do that just keep an eye on the oil level
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Is anyone able to confirm why this might be the case and the consequences for not clearing it out before it gets full?
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Certainly after changing the oil and a few high speed runs mine tends to have about an inch or two of oil in there (which if you drain it actually equates to very little) after a few hundred miles... but it doesn't seen to fill up any more than that though, and the oil level at the dip-stick remains constant... even if you empty the tube and it fills back up another inch or so. xxx |
What happens after 2500miles....
I did a 2200 mile trip in 6 days in October and have only done 300miles since.
Today I fitted a DNA filter and took the air box apart to take pictures for Kev. This is what happened.... Attachment 3086 Attachment 3085 There was about 30mm of oil in the air filter box A lesson learned... |
Phew - that is quite a lot of oil Ray!
I must say, when I took my airbox cover off (erm, the bits of it that remained - that's another Rubicon story) there was a little oil in the bottom, but barely a thimbleful... Btw. Another one of those new Tenere features that is well thought out but you don't immediately appreciate is the fact the air-box is in three parts - so if you do damage a side panel, you can just replace that part (for around �10) rather than have to replace the whole airbox... top marks Yamaha! xxx |
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The more I have this bike the more I like it. |
Howzit Old Git! Really appreciated your alps write up, been digging around mapsource trying to figure out where you went, kind difficult. - Any chance that you have any "track" files stored on your etrex that you could email?
http://www.xt660.com/images/smilies/campfire.gif Attachment 3085 For over 2500 (hard) miles that oil looks remarkably clean. |
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Hi stridey I know of 2 other guy,s with 660 z and we all have the same issue.Around a inch off oil in the breather pipe after approx 5-600 miles.No worries Gary |
Hi Thanks for all the replies.
Having given it alot of thought and due to the amount of oil being so little when you drain it into a container(a full drain tube amount) I have been running the bike for the last 2 days (160 miles) WITHOUT the rubber bung in place! Yes you get a few drips after the engine is switched off but very little oil spillage during riding on the bike or rear tyre- infact less oil spillage than from the Lubeman chain oiler fitted to the rear sprocket area on the other side of the bike! Is it Yamaha fitting the bung purely as a "green" solution as its not good to drop any oil into the ecostructure. is the air breather system big enough to cope and thats why you get oil in the drain tube? Anyone got any comments or advice? thanks Stridey |
I have been watching this thread for a while now, your oil problem is bugging me, as the XTX & R does not suffer this problem & they are basically all the same motor.
Can someone please take some photo's of the oil breather system for me, from the pipe that exits the motor & winds its way to the air box. Thanks. |
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What is the problem with emptying out the tube once in a while? I'd rather have the bung in so I can keep an eye on the ammount - if it is excessive, then I imagine you will need to top up the oil filler eventually, then ride to the dealer and get it sorted under warrenty! xxx |
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Maybe there's another way to vent the crankcases? Couldn't the breather go straight up from the engine, and maybe run back in again, so there was no oil loss? Or how about directing the pipe into a Scottoiler?! ...Waste not, want not! :idea: |
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On my XR, the crankcase breather goes upwards (and not into the airbox at all now), so any oil tends to run back down the tube... Nice idea about diverting to a scottoiler tank... now there's a project for someone! xxx |
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Due to the design of the air box, air will be sucked in through that tube and straight into the engine without being filtered. Not a good idea when you consider where the tube terminates. The air box on a Z is a completely different design to the X and R which is why it cannot realy be modded in any way (bar the snorkel as JMo has done). So Stridey, put your bung back in and live with it :045: OGR |
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(Although just to clarify, I haven't modded my own snorkel, only made the suggestion...) xxx |
Oil in Air Box Pipe
:moon:Hi There ,
I have done 840 miles on my new xt660 and had to drain the pipe but two of the guys i ride with theres are the same . Just make sure your oil is topped up and ride it and enjoy it . Three of us on xt660z are going up to the scotish trails next weekend in fort willaim any one eles up for it . If you see us dont forget to beep your horn and give us wave . DAVE , GAZ & PAUL . OH FORGOT TO SAY TWO OTHER GUYS STEVE AND BOB ONE FAZER AND A SUSUKI BANDIT ( SHANE ) REGARDS NEIL4022:mbounce: |
Oil Drain
Hi Folks,
just read this thread with interest as having now done about 2k miles I noticed that the oil drain pipe is full!! The mileage included some lengthy blasts along A and B roads and plenty of off-road sections in France. Now I'm not the most gifted of mechanics and although the bike's running fine I assume I should drain the pipe and then re-check the oil?? Apologies for what is bound to be a daft question!:southpark: |
Worth draining the pipe every now and then, oil will collect in the airbox when the tube is full. Left mine a bit too long and filled a jam jar with oil (about 200ml I guess). That was after several thousand miles however.
Oil level does not drop significantly (even with the amount I collected) but worth checking the oil every now and then anyway. |
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You'll be suprised how little oil is contained in the drain pipe (unless it fills right up to, and into the airbox!). If your oil level was right then the simplest thing to do is to put the same amount of new oil into the bike as what has just come out! |
Oil Drain
Cheers Guys, another excuse to mess around with the bike!!!:HappyRoll_ANPIUI:My missus thinks I've stored another woman in the garage!!
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ive just pulled the plug out of mine their was abit so iam just leaveing it un plugged
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Barry. |
the chance of muck getting up the pipe and in to air box is very very slim its only in the last few year the makers have been plugging over flow tubes for the eu crap
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Kev, i take it you are ware that the drain pipe comes from the
after filter side of the box?
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yep not a prob, the chance of anything getting up their on my bike , more chance of me winning the lottery lol
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xxx I'm no eco-weeny, but I do think that removing/replacing the bung is hardly a hardship. and would stop oil dripping out in-line with the rear tyre? - potentially a disaster, especially in the rain? - I agree with you the the primary reason is some silly Euro legislation - my XR/s vent to the open air, but the end of their tube is up under the seat, not barely 8 inches off the ground? |
WHAT A DEEP RIVER LOL you got to be kiddin i would have to clean it again , i took it on the back field for some picks and got mud on the wheels i ended up cleaning it for 4 hours lol
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i polish my pipe all the time
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Of course in true Blue Peter stylee, I hope to see a 35mm film canister modded with silicon sealant and pin-pricks in a rubber membraine to regulate the flow... Actually, on second thoughts - maybe just get a proper scottoiler reservoir and fit a nipple to accept the end of the hose from the airbox... xxx |
I modified a chainoiler using some carb vent hose, some heatshrink and a stainless steel tig filler rod to knock up a very nice chain oiler ;)
I've just had a thought; the drain pipe is from the airbox, why does it fill with oil? Is there an engine breather that goes in there too? I need to look at this. Why can't the engine breather vent to atmosphere? aRgh. |
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The crankcase breather on my Caponord used to dump oil through and mess up the rear injector. Bloody thing. I shall get on with trying it out. Thanks for the info JMo. Can I interest you in a chain oiler? ;) |
ohh crap and I thought something is wrong with my engine. I had a longer trip (4400km) and noticed some oil is slowly dripping out of airbox. I looked closer, the cover is very tight but I still get some oil dripping through it. This never happened to me on normal riding days or on shorter trips. My problem is, I have a 2-in-1 exhaust system and it is difficult to access the pipe. And second problem is, when oil is dripping, it is dripping exactly on the exhaust, so guess if I was surprised when suddenly some smoke came out on my right side. Ok, i will try do detach the pipe and see if it is filled with oil :)
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I will try that. damn 2in1 exhaust is on the way, i must have really small hands to do that. and some very long needlenose pliers :P
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