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too much weight on the rear - or does my bum look big in this!
Maxwell
I agree - and failing a positive reply from Acerbis or a friend who does clever stuff with aluminium sheet I think I'm going to have to shell out for the OTR tank! :-( Eagle |
Weight distribution is a big issue. If you are traveling long distance and need all your packs and panniers, I would much prefer to have the extra weight distributed a little more on the bike than placing it all on the back (and high at that). But it takes a bit of getting used to, regardless of where you place that extra weight. There is no easy solution. But imho, the extra large tank is the easiest and most convenient solution, albeit the most expensive one. Having extra fuel in jerry cans various places on your bike, does solve the fuelproblem (somewhat). But it is just easier to fill up 26l of petrol and not worry about it for another 500km or so. And on my trip through Africa, I had a 10l jerry can on TOP of that. And I needed it at times. But if you don't foresee fuel being a problem within the 500km radius, you can use that space on your rack for equipment that otherwise might be taken up by jerry cans. Let's face it; there's not a lot of room on a bike.
So there isn't a downside to the extra large tank, aside from the cost? Yup, there is. When you are NOT traveling and you have removed your rack and panniers, the bike gets very nose heavy. Forget about wheelies (unless you sprocket down, I suppose). Offroad becomes harder, because the bikes nose digs into soft surfaces more than usuall. You can always change back to the original tank. But I'm a lazy gitt, so that's not happening :). I just deal with it and not drive so much offroad. Not that I do that a lot anyway, so it's no loss to me. Eagle 747, if you decide to go with the OTR tank and need a few bits of advise (the "manual" is in german. Unless they've translated it by now), feel free to contact me. I'd be happy to help if I can. But to be honest, it's not that difficult. Best regards Torsten |
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help with tank ect
Torsten
Thanks for the offer. I am planning to put the text of the instructions through babelfish when I get time. Hopefully the translation will be understandable. If I gave it to you maybe you could tidy it up and we could post it here? I don't think there is a copyright issue as it freely available from their site. Regarding the weight distribution issue - I'd have thought just not filling the tank up all the way when riding off road would be a solution! As the coolant tank gets moved further back (where the toolkit goes) does than help a bit to balance things out if you don't ride the rough stuff with a full tank unless it is really necessary? Or am I being to simple? :-)
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Moving the coolant tank back under the seat does move the weight back. You're right ofcourse. But if I remember correctly, it is one liter or less. So it's not a big issue. But I did forget about it.
I'm a practicality buff and realy put appearences waaay down on my list. As long as the stuff works, and works well, I don't care how it looks (well, not a whole lot anyway). Your practical approach towards just not filling the tank up completely, is right up my alley. I think you and I could be great friends :). But as I said, I'm not big on offroad so I'll propably stick to my "fill'er up" expression when tanking petrol. Besides, I've just gotten used to it and don't regard it a big deal. I was just pointing out the "downside" of the bigger tank. As for the "manual" you get from OTR, I think babelfish will do a much better translation than I will. I did a small write up with some pictures when I fitted mine, that might help you out. Can't remember exactly, but I think I saw your name in that thread. Here is the thread if you can't find it again http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=3880. Best regards Torsten |
tanking it!!
Torsten
I've ridden for 35 years but never been off-road - intentionally! But I plan to do Uk to Libya via Spain and Morocco. So I guess I will need a whole lot of fuel capacity. Yes - spotted your comments - just thought I'd fil in a few gaps (hope you don't mind). Got the water pump protector today from OffTheRoad - complete with German instructions and a nice offer for enduro training - in Germany, and a German Enduro mag too. Never mind - I enjoyed the pictures. The only bit of the instructions I understood was the torque settings - which I ignored anyway.... The tank will be a bit more complicated (and hellish expensive) - but gotta do it. With the luggage, pipes, clothing and other stuff this is going to be an expensive adventure. But I plan it to be one of many - so I see this as an investment. Hope my wife does too! You said <<as I said, I'm not big on offroad>> - and you travelled across Africa!!!! Eagle (aka Mark from Cornwall) |
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I wish i could do the trip your planning on doing, well i was going to be doing most of it until my brother changed his plans and canelled out agains ago. O Well ive got europe to look forward too. |
Join me?
Maxwell
Maybe you could join up with me? I wouldn't want to do this trip with a group - but a buddy would be fine, and safer. Still not sure of the timing cos I gotta do an off road course and find about �2500 for the bike and the trip - and I may be heading for redundancy (again!). But it WILL happen. Think about it anyway. And anyone else who's interested - but if it get to more than four of us I might strike out on my own... But wouldn't leave a single buddy on his / her own. It's a bit like diving. Alone, but you need a backup. but hey - what an adventure.... I've only ever flown to the USA three times (twice for work) Paris (for work) and Amsterdam (sadly for work too). So I aim to get well travelled before I die. My other half won't go any further than the Scilly Isles (which is great for a quiet holiday but not an adventure) so that's why I have not done this stuff up till now. Hence buying the XTR - checked out everything including the 1200GS and this is defo the right bike. XTZ too tall and not available anyway. Everything else not tough or reliable enough. KTMs are great but I wouldn't trust them across the Sahara - or a BMW either. So there it is - how about it? Eagle Eagle |
Jerry Cans ???
Not many people can afford the price of a 22 L tank from OTR , me included,
So after looking at my bike for and hour or so , I decided to make two Alluminium " Jerry Cans". Beats that plastic bottle everyone carries strapped to the back of their bikes and now I have 24 Litres to do those long rides. I used 2.5 mm alluminium plate , bent it on a home made bender , made up all the other bits and pieces , and got a mate of mine to tig them together, The filler necks I got a machine shop to turn for me. And the fuel caps are steel allen cap blank offs with a copper crush washer for a seal. I used an alluminium angle iron brace at the bottom with 2 x 6mm bolts to secure . And at the top a swung the original pannier brackets round and used the 2 x 6mm allen cap screws to secure the top bracket. It only takes 2 minutes to remove the tank and pour it in your main tank. http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/Photo273.jpg They worked out at 4.6 litres per tank. http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...e/Photo158.jpg |
Here in Brazil the GiliMoto produce one, with 22 liters.
It's it, with 22 liters. http://www.gilimoto.com.br/produtos/...dia/CPBR63.jpg It cost here R$ 600,00 or US$ 256.00. |
Just checked the site out..... this is going to make a lot of guys happy. Including me!
Thanx!! |
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i sent mail to gili motor thought i did not understad their web pages. or i did not find it in english....only portugese i hope they answer soon |
Finally...a reason for O-T-R to lower their prices and get their thumb out :nod:
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i got answer from gilimotor. they have tanks in stock. black, red and blue.
they do not accept international credit cards. i asked do they have paypal or is it possible to have preinvoice. i know that there are some risks paying beforehand but price is attracting. they are sorting out shipping costs and time from brasil to finland |
Very good guys,
If I can help you tell me please... :020: |
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they do not have paypal either. i asked them to send preinvoice to me and send tank after they have recived money. i also asked if they can ask local shipping company (dhl or similar) how much shipping costs from brasil to finland, europe and also how many days it will take. i have never bought anything from brasil. do you have vat tax system in brasil? if so do you know if it is possible to take vat of if i buy items abroad with company vat number (which i have) |
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I'll try to help then OK? If they want. After it, I come back here... :smilies0345: |
gilimotors answer:
Jari, I talked with correios, for I to export the tank fro you, You can deposit: R$554,40 - tank U$25,00 - exchanges with the bank (Citibank) Transportation: You can choose: R$281,00 - between 4 and 6 days for the tank to arrive at the country or R$114,00 - between 14and 16 days. I waiting for you answer, and one more time, sorry for don't speak english well. Regards, Giovana Correios is state owned post company. slower shipping to finland and i will have a larger tank under 250 �..... still waiting how to make actual money transfer. i asked him to make an invoice and send it to via e mail. |
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I'm very interested! :) |
What about the Brazilian tank friends?
Good notices? :yahoo: |
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i hope that will happen in few days we have at the moment three people in finland whom are going to make anorder. i hope that some more will appear. |
Hmmm,
i,ve just made a 6ltr tank to replace the righthand silencer, it works on suction from the main tank and empties first. wish i,d known about the gill one though. |
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What's the news? :newspaper: |
i have been soooo unactive in this.
yesterday i thougt that i must active and sent mail to them. no answer yet. |
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OK hono, I'll talk with them to know what is the problem. They have a great oportunity to sell the tanks for other countries and don't to this. |
mail come back. are they alive?
did got any contact to gilimotor.com? |
I just sent them an email re shipping costs, I'll let you know their answer...
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Hello Friends,
Do you still want to have this tank? I talked with then today about this situation. If you want, I'll try to help then to sell the tanks. |
offcource we are still intrested.
i noticed from advrider (your post) that they are (i mean gilimotor) still going strong....... now we or i need pre invoice including transportation from brasil to home. i will send mail to them and ask them to send invoice to me. etec etc |
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We have more information here: http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?p=98151#post98151 We almost finish all the price. Keep in touch. |
Friends, look at the information I send from Joe from Peru.
--------------------------------------- Joe, I have on simulation of price. Tank = R$ 630,00 (This one has a lid with key); Transport = R$ 100,00 (delivery in 11 to 16 days); Total without taxes = R$ 730,00, or US$ 371.00 (D�lar US$ 1,79 now) We don't receive more information about taxes, as I receive, I'll send OK? And we have a little problem. We don't know until now if the transport is until the house or until the customs (anf�ndega - Federal Reserve in Brazil). In this case is possible that you have to pay one more transporte until you house. Try to find some information in Peru and tell me OK? Bye, |
Hola Robson,
thanks for your info!:WellDone_OROQR1: good job! I would pick it up myself in the customs - that�s faster and easier than with a forwarder. One question: if gili exports the tank, they should be able to deduct the tax (VAT or IGV)of Brazil, how much would that be? Here in Peru the import tax would be like 30% of the value...... saludos, Joe |
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It will be good if we can send by a different way, as if I send for you as a gift. Probably it doesn't have rates. I'll find some information. |
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Friends, take a look at the message I sent to Ian...
Ian! I come back this week, I was on a trip. Well, I bought one of this tanks for me, with 22,5 liters, it is not so beatifull, byt is so good. I come back to Gili negociation, then, we'll have more notice to you. I want to tell you that they want to sell the tank for you, but, because we don't know the taxes to import in the destination country, and it can increase too much the price. I'll do more tests and come back here OK? Off course, I'll send some pictures of the tank in my bike. |
Fuel Tanks Alluminium
I made my own extra fuel cans out of 2.5mm alluminium plate.
Thet take 4.6 Litres each and mount on either side of my bike in the Kappa pannier support brackets. I have taken some hard falls on the roacks with them and they work really well. This is me towing a GS800 that ran out of fuel on one of our recent trips , note the tanks at the rear of the bike http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...MWoutofgas.jpg |
Bet you loved towing that GS...hope you took the road back past the Waterfront where the BMW dealership is...:067:
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well guys just read thru all your posts there,, an it seems that no one got a tank from acerbis,,yet the last owner of my bike did,,,acerbis 27 ltr,, he bought it in 07.... he said it nearly hit �1000...yes �1000... here it is fitted.
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