Originally Posted by CaptMoto

This post is not intended to offend anyone, its just a realization of all the experience that some of you have been going through.

Some of you guys, (no need to give out names), have been with us for quite some time now, you have all owned an XT wether it was the X or the R doesn't matter. What matter is you have all experienced the satisfying factor you get from riding this bike, the low maintenance required, i.e. long service stretches, and you have also learnt that whilst the XT is not a bonafide out and out SuperMotard, or a kick arse off roader capable of impressing Pastrana, there is no other bike out there at the moment there that will replace the all-rounder flexibility of an XT.

A few of you, sold your XT and got SV's , Fazers, Beemers, while some even went for a proper Supermoto, only to realize they got bored quickly or that a 4 in-line speed machine is no thrill in their ordinary riding needs, ie commuting or other.

I only want to name one person as an example that is afk40, he sold his R got a SV and hated it, then he sold that and got a Honda FMX and thought it couldn't perform more than 80mph, finally he listened to my advice and got a new 07 XT and now he is very happy again. This is a man who has owned over 200 bikes so he is no fool.

I think anyone else wishing to part with their existing XT should follow this advice and hold on their impatience to try something better when unfortunately there is not really anything at the moment worthy of replacing or even matching the low maintenance cost and performance that you get from an XT. You would be burning a hole into your pocket buying and selling other bikes to try and get an edge on the XT.

If of course someone is looking for a different bike with the idea of touring long distances then I'll be the first to tell them the XT is not for them and they are better off with a TeDiu M or a Cruella (Deuville).

Originally Posted by CaptMoto

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Originally Posted by b0ng0man

Well captain what i have to say is simple , and i am a professional mechanic who works on formula cars, Bosch motorsport ecu and telemetry systems , won asian Championship in 2004-2005 , i am also the data technician as well as team mechanic for a Formula team.Qualified Motorcycle mechanic ,and my experience with my xt660x has been absolutely dreadfull.i have had a lot of motorcycles and each of the one i have owned had something outstanding about them.The xtx 660 (2004) is fantastic with the choke on , thats about 45 seconds before it leans out.See in order to pass euro 3 emissions Yamaha decided to make the lemon of them all ,nothing and i mean nothing in terms of a lemon even comes close to it.Its quite simple to explain if an engine doesnt burn fuel then there is no emission ,Fact.
Another fact is that without the proper amount of fuel , especially in a single , it cannot run properly.
My xt 500 from 1977 has more bottom end, and more midrange and is easily ridable at the speed limit or thereabouts as with the new xtx660 i have to be at least above 80-90 km/h for it to run properly , and in australia thats particularly handy in schoolzones (where the speed is 40) its also fantastic at roundabouts which can only be taken at some very minimal speed and best of all i absolutely love the stalling in between gears especially from 3rd to second where i get to test my skills everyday while my rear wheel compression locks.Its also quite demanding to restart the bike at roundabouts while engaged and with a pillion , never have my riding skill been tested so much in such a short amount of time.Now for now id would be happier and safer to ride my neighbourghs lawnmower,as everytime i take that xtx660 i wonder if i am going to make it back home without getting runover.The bike is still under warranty and is with yamaha Australia wich i am sure are having a very close look at it.and for good measure and in case you havnt noticed on page 7-16 of the yamaha workshop manual cd.the air intake sensor reading according to the manual should be between 2.22-2.69 ohm well that is wrong that should say Kohm that will avoid half the xtx660 owners ordering a new air intake sensor as if it was between 2.21 and 2.69 ohm that means it would actually generate heat...lol!!!!
That having been said Captain everyone is entitled to their opinion i lok=ve the brembo brakes and the small front wheel and the new Michelin pilot i put on for ......20 kms.Thats how long it took me to find out that it was unridable especially in town..total cost for this lemon
purschase price at 8000 kms 7500.00
new tyres Michelin 400.00
new air filter 110.00
rego transfer 200.00
Insurance -Gio wont insure it!!
Kilometers done in unsafe conditions 120 which is 1 full tank for 110.00 kms talk about great economy and value for money.!!!
add all the fluid changes when i got it
brake fluid, coolant, spark plugs, valve clearances check,engine oil , oil filter,and my time for checking ALL fuel injection components etc..Frankly this bike apart from being a lemon is a money pit...The cush drive is almost destroyed due to the ongoing "surges" and guess what i am riding now ??my xt 500 and yamaha Australia including the dealer who originally sold it have had it longer then me now...this bike is frankly a joke...a bad Joke....

Originally Posted by CaptMoto

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Originally Posted by Kev

You certainly come with the credentials. What work have you done on your XT to fix the problem?

We have known about the air temp sender for well over a year & a half now.

As we know the 2004-2005 ECU with the part number ending with 00 has a mapping problem, they have increase fueling & reduced the timing curve on the 2005-2006 01 ECU, there is a recall for the TPS for cutting out.
In the end I had to sort out my own XT, Yamaha Australia realy did nothing. Tell them you want the 01 ECU & the TPS that has a A2 stamped on it. I have both these fitted to my 2004 XT & it is now fixed.
Yamaha Australia offer a remapped 00 with a white paint dot on the ECU. I refused the ECU & demanded a 01 ECU for my 2004 XTX. I got it in the end.

And what will be my next bike next year, O yes a new XT660X.