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Pasta 15-12-15 21:46

Rear entry helmet
 
Pretty sweet concept. Would like to try one.

https://youtu.be/lnydMibNojo

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 16-12-15 09:44

Just for the name alone... I could never own one.

ludicator 16-12-15 12:58

Bad naming aside (fire the marketing dept, will you), the concept is actually OK. Especially the easy removal in case of accident.

Pleiades 16-12-15 18:02

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Originally Posted by ludicator (Post 216736)
Especially the easy removal in case of accident.

I'm not entirely convinced on that one. After making contact with, and likely sliding down the road, the odds of the bungs (covering the emergency release screws) getting mashed up and being impossible to remove is pretty high. Also I'm not sure I fancy the chances of the release mechanism, hinges etc. still being operative after a big hit. Or, come to think of it, staying locked in an impact. I'd guess that it'll also be a lot heavier than a standard helmet design. Unnecessarily complicated for me I'm afraid.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 16-12-15 21:34

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Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 216744)
I'm not entirely convinced on that one.

and you'd be right.

Helmet removal requires that the neck be immobilised, you cannot do that and open a rear 'flap' at the same time. Helmets should be removed (if you know what you are doing, and understand when it should be done) in line with the spine.

Macca2801 17-12-15 03:06

Did you guys watch the release video of the helmet??
The accident removal is the front of the helmet is either pivoted up and over the face without moving the head of the patient at all or the hinge is released and the front section if removed entirely. The rear section is then left on the ground and actually cradles the patients head ready for the fitment of the neck brace.
Awesome design in principle and Im sure there will be alot more testing and evaluation in the future to see if the principle works in real life.
See the posted video show the QR label on the helmet that links paramedics to the procedure for releasing the helmet if they are unfamiliar?
Helmet Release EMS
http://www.vozzhelmets.com/

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 17-12-15 11:37

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Originally Posted by Macca2801 (Post 216759)
Did you guys watch the release video of the helmet??.

No, I didn't.

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Originally Posted by Macca2801 (Post 216759)
The accident removal is the front of the helmet is either pivoted up and over the face without moving the head of the patient at all or the hinge is released and the front section if removed entirely. The rear section is then left on the ground and actually cradles the patients head ready for the fitment of the neck brace.

And so here I stand... corrected.

Insofar as they make efforts to advise the Paramedics of these designs, some still don't know about Shoei's emergency removable cheek pads

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The removal is a bit faffy, fine if the rider is breathing - potentially deadly if not, if you have need to remove a lid, it's because there is a breathing problem, or risk of vomiting. Speaking personally, I live in an area with sporadic mobile coverage, so scanning a QR code is not an option, I guess a diagram on the lid would work though. Removing screws ??? A rider could easily have choked, swallowed their tongue or be drowning in vomit before you get the screws out.

Slightly less concerning, for the UK market, it is illegal to ride without your chin strap fastened. So this needs to be clarified in law, but that would form part of type approval so they wouldn't be able to sell it until that was resolved.

I still don't like the name though.

Pleiades 17-12-15 13:41

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Originally Posted by Macca2801 (Post 216759)
Did you guys watch the release video of the helmet??

Yep. Observation, comment and opinion was based solely on the information presented in the video.

Macca2801 17-12-15 14:15

So you observed in the video that undoing the release mechanism is a choice not a necessity. Removing the helmet is simply the two clips at the side. Done, flip off the front and perform CPR clear airway DRABC etc.
Removing the helmet with absolutely no chance of twisting or pulling on a compromised neck can also be achieved by removing two screws...pretty simply really... Even a paramedic could acomplish that if necessary.
I agree with the QR, Gulg, it may or may not be available to the EMTs but despite not knowing that...this design is eons in front of any other full face design when trying remove from an immobilized patient.
Not sure if it will be the be-all of helmet design in the future but is certainly the most revolutionary design I have seen in a helmet in the last 30 years.
Interesting to see that people's first reaction to anything unconventional is negative.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 17-12-15 15:35

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Originally Posted by Macca2801 (Post 216776)
Not sure if it will be the be-all of helmet design in the future but is certainly the most revolutionary design I have seen in a helmet in the last 30 years.

On that, we agree. It will certainly cause a bit of a design think by the market leaders - if it takes off with the buying public. Maybe price will play a big part.

I've posted the link to the vid on our Blood Bike site, we have Paramedics in the group so it will be nice to get a professional opinion.

The name still sucks. They will need to change that for UK marketing, and believe it or not, that is my biggest issue with it.


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