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kc2ine 23-07-14 04:32

[QUOTE=Chenko;201353]

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps7sgeyv00.jpg


Wow! were you shot by missile?

marques 23-07-14 05:24

Russians or Taliban

Bartosz 16-08-14 19:19

Ok my friends - below are some photos of my engine parts.
After stripping it down we have discover, that 4th gear sprocket has disintegrated damaging gear selector. Unfortunately some debris make their way to main crank shaft case and was bouncing around damaging components:
- impact marks all around crank case
- impact mark on crank rod
- some bits get in between piston and cylinder and made scratches on piston walls
- also impact marks on the piston and on the bottom of the cylinder flange

In the end some two big bits gets between crank shaft counterweights and anti - vibration shaft (don't know its exact English name) and cause them to crash and stop... you can see marks on the photos...


http://i2.fmix.pl/fmi438/b3d497e400028f9853ef8da4

http://i1.fmix.pl/fmi285/a881a680002d216353ef8db0

http://i3.fmix.pl/fmi1169/da0e0e8e0017fd8053ef8db8

http://i3.fmix.pl/fmi321/e8452eed000cace353ef8dbe

http://i2.fmix.pl/fmi1759/7c711c2e00142d8853ef8df4

http://i2.fmix.pl/fmi150/9b51d44f0001f79f53ef8dfa

http://i1.fmix.pl/fmi188/3b35f0a500037fc553ef8dff

http://i2.fmix.pl/fmi2928/91ec2667001b140553ef8e3a

http://i1.fmix.pl/fmi697/c1e065df000b048f53ef8e4f

http://i2.fmix.pl/fmi2846/e0fa6b55000bdce053ef8eba

http://i2.fmix.pl/fmi1555/4324cc62001edf0253ef8ec1

http://i1.fmix.pl/fmi1077/a09cfeac00107ead53ef8ec9

http://i1.fmix.pl/fmi816/9f3bc223000d157b53ef8ed6

http://i3.fmix.pl/fmi300/02bf271a000e187353ef8ef5

http://i3.fmix.pl/fmi1897/be47e85200179e2753ef8f02

http://i1.fmix.pl/fmi1426/8d9cd8a8000544f753ef8f16

Pelle_Punk 16-08-14 21:58

Looks really ****ed-up.....looks lika a replacement engine is your only choise?

I suffer with you :/

// Pelle

UKbri 16-08-14 22:32

Ouch! Sorry to see that man. Looks done to me.

Kev 17-08-14 03:06

Not good.

Bartosz 17-08-14 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pelle_Punk (Post 202192)
Looks really ****ed-up.....looks lika a replacement engine is your only choise?

I suffer with you :/

// Pelle

Yes, engine already purchased. Waiting for delivery. 2012 engine with less then 2000 miles. Should be good.

It was possible to repair damaged engine, and it could be done relatively cheap using second hand anti vibration shaft, then re-balance crank shaft and use cheaper bearings for them. Only gear selector and sprocket will have to be bought new. This was suggested to me by some people since i want to sell my bike, but i have decided that i wont sell to anyone such ticking bomb... Engine can be put together and it will run, but for how long - you never know. It's better to fit other engine and don't sell a bomb to other biker.
Once in my life i have purchased bike badly repaired and it explode after short time - since that i have decided that i don't want to be a d**k like some people.

Pelle_Punk 17-08-14 11:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartosz (Post 202206)
Yes, engine already purchased. Waiting for delivery. 2012 engine with less then 2000 miles. Should be good.

It was possible to repair damaged engine, and it could be done relatively cheap using second hand anti vibration shaft, then re-balance crank shaft and use cheaper bearings for them. Only gear selector and sprocket will have to be bought new. This was suggested to me by some people since i want to sell my bike, but i have decided that i wont sell to anyone such ticking bomb... Engine can be put together and it will run, but for how long - you never know. It's better to fit other engine and don't sell a bomb to other biker.
Once in my life i have purchased bike badly repaired and it explode after short time - since that i have decided that i don't want to be a d**k like some people.

That sounds like a healthy attitude.

Better to bury the old motor 9 feet deep, and then forget that chapter.

Glad it arranged up with a new engine even though it's a terrible shame to spend money on such things!

// Pelle

Pelle_Punk 17-08-14 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartosz (Post 202206)
Yes, engine already purchased. Waiting for delivery. 2012 engine with less then 2000 miles. Should be good.

It was possible to repair damaged engine, and it could be done relatively cheap using second hand anti vibration shaft, then re-balance crank shaft and use cheaper bearings for them. Only gear selector and sprocket will have to be bought new. This was suggested to me by some people since i want to sell my bike, but i have decided that i wont sell to anyone such ticking bomb... Engine can be put together and it will run, but for how long - you never know. It's better to fit other engine and don't sell a bomb to other biker.
Once in my life i have purchased bike badly repaired and it explode after short time - since that i have decided that i don't want to be a d**k like some people.

That sounds like a healthy attitude.

Better to bury the old motor 9 feet deep, and then forget that chapter.

Glad it got solved with a new engine even though it's a terrible shame to spend money on such things!

// Pelle

Pleiades 18-08-14 00:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bartosz (Post 202188)
After stripping it down we have discover, that 4th gear sprocket has disintegrated damaging gear selector.

That's a new one - it's number 3 in every other case we've seen?

Good luck with the engine transplant.

mb4807 29-05-15 14:56

On its way
 
My 3rd gear is now getting hard to select. 20,000km on a 2009 Tenere. Just rode another Tenere and there was a marked difference between that one and mine.

Unless when I pull the engine casing and clutch I find a broken dog, will a replacement of the stopper arm and bearing return the bike to normal and be the end of it, or is it likely parts will have been worn and/or weakened?

It's only been getting noticeable in the last couple of thousand km at most, so I hope I am getting to it before there are any serious issues. Seems worth a try as a first course of action?

Any advice or suggestions? (Will I need a flywheel puller of some sort, or any other special tools?)

yuk 05-09-16 09:20

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4th, I stopped the engine, the pieces fell after. Now the bike is good, there were no other damage :smilies0349:


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