Dude, your attitude is making me uncomfortable, this is my last warning. I can do without this, and so can every one, if you can't play nice, then please see if you are man enough to exercise this same attitude in a real life environment, like a pub for instance, in a face to face discussion with real people you have just met, I'd suspect that if you behave like this with people you don't know that well, that you'll end up going home with a bloody nose.

We don't do bloody noses here, but we can be just as cunning by deleting unwanted members, banning IP addresses for life, and nasty stuff like that, oh yeah if the proverbial hits the fan, I can be a right 4 letter words whichever one you wish to use.

Dear fellow XT660.com members, please take careful note the following:

We are not a restrictive forum, and we want to give everyone here a warm welcome and the freedom to express whichever opinion they might have, provided it is done in true politeness and not in an inflammatory fashion among others.

That is our main goal, also we do not enjoy curbing, banning and reprimanding people, in fact, my theory is that if someone "briefly" steps out of line, it may be because he / she has not yet got accustomed with the way people are allowed to enjoy total mature serenity while visiting our forum.

It is my job and that of the moderators / admin to quickly steer the person that is "rocking the boat" in the right direction, we don't just ban anyone unless they really go out and out crazy on us, instead we hope to give them a chance to understand their shortcoming and learn to blend with the rest of the members here. If our polite approach doesn't work and it means we've got a bad apple that just won't change its ways then the ultimate decision becomes inevitable.

To be honest with you all, I really am very busy trying to keep this place enjoyable for our visitors and our members, coupled with the fact that I do have a real day job, so from my perspective, this would be the only forum I visit, I really have no time, to read other motorcycle sites at all, so I don't know what goes on "next door" so to speak, however a few of you who are members of various other bike forums have pointed out to me something that up until this morning I was not aware of, and the reason I am making this public is because I want to try and behave differently from all the other forum admins / owners that will be listed below, and because I want to offer kc2ine a chance that no other forum owners has given him, so please read on...

Someone said to me, well I am also a member of such and such forum and guess what Mr. kc2ine has joined a number of them and has been banned from all of them for aggressive posting, and impolite behavior in general.

And the list is as follows, (it even includes a Skoda car forum for goodness sake!)

1) nc-700.com forum http://nc700-forum.com/forum/members/kc2ine.html
kc2ine
Banned

2) advrider.com http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...5#post24467245
status show user awaiting email confirmation, this means his registration has been voided / suspended or banned in other words he is unable to post there anymore

3) Triumph rat.net forum http://www.triumphrat.net/members/176841-kc2ine.html
user Banned.

4) Briskoda.net (A car forum!!) http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic...2#entry3399892

the last also shows that he has attempted multiple registration of the same forum using alias, kc2ine - Duplicate of Skodass which was a duplicate of offnote.

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Now based on the above track record I have received suggestions from other moderators to remove the problem before it escalates, i.e. to just ban kc and the sunshine band altogether and get rid of a potential bad apple, but I won't do that, at least not before I have appealed to the person in question as follows:

kc2ine, as you can see cards are on the table. We have all shown our hands, and it seems that you have had some degree of trouble in other forums, which lead you to get banned from them, I could probably search for more, but I can't be bothered.

Let's face it, your "infractions" in xt660.com were classed by me as "benefit of the doubt" close to the edge but not yet worthy of serious disciplinary actions, however the buck stops here, I have intervened with you yesterday in this very thread and now I want to offer you a fair chance to prove to us all that you can be polite, and ultimately show all those other forum that banned you, that there is someone (us) who will give you a lifeline, and a fair opportunity to allow you to retake your steps and get inline with the flow of a decent forum. This my friend is the opportunity I am offering, if it was down to the moderators, you wouldn't have this chance, but me? I'm different. So prove me right, or otherwise you know what will happen.

It's blue pill / red pill time:

You take the blue pill, and you will chill the **** out, behave like a gentleman, you get to keep the forum membership and make some good friends here.

You take the red pill, act like a **** again and you'll be out of here before you know it, without further warning.

You decide your own future in :660:

over and out



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Can we assume from the above that Mr kc2ine hasn't given us engine failure statistics?

Because, believe it or not, I'm actually very interested to find this out. Is there a way, anyone? My feeling is, though, that it's a pretty good motor providing some preventative maintenance is fed to it.

Having said that, my previous remark re Bartosz's jumping his Tenere causing catastrophic engine failure was out of line, I think. Since seeing his riding in living, moving colour, I too would hope that a Tenere could deal with that kind of operation. Sorry mate, I thought you were pulling sort of reduced mx-style jumps.

I wonder if it's worth going the metallurgical route and getting the busted gears tested? On the face of it, these failure shouldn't happen, but no-one can be responsible for any previous owner's work, either. As has been pointed out already.

Well, I will not comment this, it doesn't touch me even if I'm Italian, but it may be interesting for others to know this Yamaha bike is pretty much an Italian bike.
Much of the design and development has been carried out in Italy, in Gerno di Lesmo (Monza), as well as assembling of the first production batch.
Engine is Minarelli.
Brakes are Brembo.
Forks are Paioli.
Steering bar is Tommaselli.
Rims are Sanremo.

I changed my exhausts with GPR, and 28' steering bar with risers by Buzzetti, and those aftermarket parts are Italian too and I know they are used worldwide.

So it may be an issue to some and a good thing to others, I don't care, but yeah, the new T�n�r� is very much Italian. :-)

Are the rims on the T�n�r� Sanremo?? the XTX/XTR have Takasaki ones... I didn't know that :)

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One more to add. :003:
My 2009 Tenere (10k) is now sporting a 2012 engine/gearbox. Wonder if some vintages are more prone than others. Can we put years next to those listed above?

I was surprised to feel that there is an obvious difference to the way my bike shifts now, I can downshift multiple gears without letting clutch go, sth that my old gearbox was very reluctant to do. It's a bit less clunky and a thump after putting first gear is less of a thump. Could there be some symptoms?

Came across a lot of dead 660 engines while looking for a replacement, all were 2008-2010.

Mine was a 2009.

Interesting thread indeed, shame about the need for warnings but lets ignore. My opinion is as follows:

1. The XT is NOT a Japanese bike. It is a Yamaha assembled in Europe with some excellent European components.
2. The reliability of the XT (I have owned 3 XTXs over the last few years) is awful compared to any Japanese Yamaha.
3. In my opinion this lack of reliability is not connected to the components, rather it must be the assembly.

I have owned perhaps 12 Yamahas (and Hondas before that) and I have never had any reliability problems before the XTs. BUT of course I love the XT for its unique character, but I have just sold my blue beast for a new MT 09.

It's interesting that they don't sell the xt in japan. They did sell the r for a while but was quickly withdrawn. Personally one of the reasons a got the xt was for its superior reliability according to some . Now I'm gutted.

Don�t be gutted � it might never happen! In fact, it very probably isn�t going to happen.

There have been nearly 4500 XT660s sold in the UK alone, so a handful, maybe six cases here (and that�s not just in the UK) means that statistically it�s extremely likely to NOT happen. To be precise that�s about a 0.1% chance based solely on UK sales. If you take on board world sales being in the region of 20K since 2004 (and that�s not including Derbis, MT-03s etc.), then your chances of it going pop are down to less than 0.03%.

But hey, let�s be positive, that means there�s a 99.97% chance of your XT660 gearbox being perfectly fine! ;)