Engines can fail at any time. There's nothing to worry about the reliability of an XT engine.
Mine is 88000 kms old. Nothing happend to it. Very reliable. I would buy my Z again. There are some people out there with more than a 100000 kms on the clock without any issues despite maintenance.

Not to criticize, but this doesn't seem help me in getting more knowledge, because it is just bringing your unique experience vs my unique experience. Which makes for 2 experiences that don't make any reliable statistic and I'm trying to get past this.

Design choices DO make a difference in reliability, I would like to understand what those design choices are.

your engine is fine so whole series is fine? right? Come on, as I see statistics now are pretty bad for xt660z.

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Single cylinder engines are NOT the most reliable engines, far from it. They are simply the most easy to work with and fix it because complexity is low. Singles work in big stress so I wouldn't expect long life from it.

I prefer at least 2 cylinders, if one fail I can still come back home.

I guess the main problem here is xt660z engine is made in Italy...

Hmm. If one cylinder fails in a twin, the chances of you riding it anywhere after that are not good. Not impossible, but not great, depending upon the nature of the failure, of course.

Can you cough up the statistics you're talking about, please kc2ine? I'd love to see them. Remembering that there are a lot of motorbikes around with these engines, it would be cool to see what you have to tell us. Production numbers v failures, broken down into gearbox failures? Average km to each failure? Number of these engines compared with, say, KTM production numbers?

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Statements like...

..and...

...are neither constructive, helpful or in the spirit of this forum.

You joined the forum and have asked in numerous posts and threads for opinions on the XT660Z, which is absolutely fine; it's what the forum is for. Please bear in mind Fridolin and 66T are only offering you their opinion based on their real world experience of the Tenere. It is not within the spirit of XT660.com to ask for opinions and then offer personal and defamatory retorts to those opinions because they perhaps don't happen to agree with yours.

Fridolin and 66T both own Teneres and have ridden thousands of miles/kilometres on them, their opinions (whether you agree with them or not) are credible and worth the respect they deserve. As far as I can tell, you've never ridden an XT660Z, never mind covered serious miles on one, so please think and be a bit more diplomatic before jumping in with your responses, which are sailing very close to the mark.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion (including you), but no body deserves to have it thrown back in their face - especially if they've been asked for it in the first place.

Now, can we please get back to the subject in hand, the OP, gearbox failures...

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kc2ine, we appreciate your debate, but I am keen for you to understand that our forum IS and SHALL REMAIN a friendly and polite forum of discussion where every person's opinion must be respected.

Your reply above: "these are really BS and very silly statement" is deemed impolite here and capable of causing animosity and escalate in people bickering and becoming little keyboard warriors.

Not over my dead body, I would let this happen here.

So please control your replies keeping politeness and respect in mind. Think before you type. If you are one of those person that cannot control themselves, then this place simply is not for you. If you can keep cool, then all will be forgotten and we welcome your input as we expect you to welcome other's.

Myself and the moderators, will continue to monitor this thread's behaviour to see if we need to take drastic actions. I hope not. Thanks.

Now you are upsetting my mother land, place of birth. Oh dear oh dear, this is beginning to look bad.

Ducati

Benelli

Aprilia

MV Agusta

Beta Motor

Borile

Cagiva

Fantic Motor

Ghezzi & Brian

Gilera

Italjet

Malaguti

Minarelli (XTX/XTR/XTZ engine's plant)

Mondial

Husqvarna

Motobi

Moto Guzzi

Moto Morini

Paton

Piaggio

Terra Modena

Vyrus


Are all the Italian factories of bikes I can think of, some of them goes back to the turn of the 19th century

Benelli was established in Pesaro, Italy in 1911, which possibly makes it the oldest of all European motorcycle factories in operation. (Moto Guzzi - the oldest European motorcycle factory in non-stop operation - was established in 1921.)

You are not making many friends in this place, are you? Doesn't help that you are demonstrating very little knowledge too, by insulting the Italian motorcycle industry, that's talking loud and saying nothing.

Carry on... let's see where this will end. I smell trouble.