Tenere STAGE 2 / STAGE 3 DNA Filter 90% ready
 

I thought I'd give you guys a little suspence...

Dino showed me a prototype of the new Stage 2 Filter that together with the Stage 1 will make the airbox the complete Stage 3 package.

I can't show you the graph or the pics yet as it is still hush hush at the moment but Dino had this to say about the fliter:

"This new S2 filter is designed to replace the left side air box cover and if used with the DNA stage 1 filter and the DNA stage 2 air box cover the result is a complete Stage 3 application, concerning air flow, without changing the complete air box!!!!!!

The first results on our flow bench are very impressive; see attached graph, and tomorrow Monday, we will run the bike on the dyno, test all the configurations and make PC maps"

So you will see the rest after Monday when Dino has run a Dyno test.

It will work well, as we all know by now the XT660 motor responds well to these type of mods, as the air intake is heavily restricted in the standard form.

DNA wins again. :notworthy::033:

Lets Hope it will work with KEV'S mod :108:

XT 660 Z - DNA Stage 1, DNA Stage 2 & DNA Stage 3 !
 

Hi Francis,
You can post the photos and the graph, no problem!
I am sure that many Tennere owners will be very happy when they will use this new mod, from DNA!

Cheers,

Dino

Very well, then!
 

Here we have

Completed Stage 2 cover / Stage 3 Airbox
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...PPLICATION.jpg

Fitted on the Bike
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...EBIKELOWRE.jpg

Air flow chart comparison
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...C-Y6E08-S2.jpg

XT 660 Z - DNA Stage 1, DNA Stage 2 & DNA Stage 3 !
 

Thanks Francis,

Dino

How does it work with a complete standard Tenere?
I haven't changed any mechanical bits.

Any idea on a price as yet, and when is it going in production?

Hi fozzy,

We have planned to release it next week and the price will be very good.

Best regards

Dino

Hi Nelis,

We have just completed our testing and mapping, from a complete stock engine with stock exhausts it produced 50.9 hp.!!
I will post the dyno runs soon.

Best regards,

Dino

thanx, it might be my next mod.

i would be interested on what you could expect from a xtz with with akro's and a power commander.

my pcv is coming tomorrow but will wait for the stage 3 before getting it on the rolling road, if you need a tester let me know... :) stage 2 is allready fitted.

Just emailed a dna supplier hopefully get a good price on this...group buy anyone?:icon_cyclops_ani:

fozzy, if you wish to get one, no need to contact DNA in Greece, you must buy it through me, so as soon as the price is announced (by DNA) get in contact with me by pm and we'll take it from there. Thanks

Right im confused, your a dna dealer or is the airbox mod your doing?

fozzy :) its a bit of everything, really, but the way we have agreed it between me and DNA is that you pay me, I send the order to DNA and they post the item to you.

Simples!

ahh right, so dna dealers wont be getting these?

Hi Guys,

As you already know we have completed all the tests today using a stock XT 660 Z Tenere.
With Very good results!
We tested the following configurations:

Test 1:
Stock XT 660 Z, stock filter, stock air box cover, stock exhausts

Test 2:
Stock XT 660 Z, DNA Stage 1 filter R-Y6E08-01, stock air box cover, stock exhausts

Test 3:
Stock XT 660 Z, DNA Stage 1 filter R-Y6E08-01, DNA Stage 2 air box cover TC-Y6E08-S2 with DNA Stage 1 intake restrictor TCI-Y6E08-S1 installed to lower the airflow down to stock level, stock exhausts
(This configuration can be used if someone prefers to use the stage 2 cover without changing the fueling)

Test 4:
Stock XT 660 Z, DNA Stage 1 filter R-Y6E08-01, DNA Stage 2 air box cover TC-Y6E08-S2, DNA Stage 2 air filter P-Y6E08-S2 (replaces the left side air box cover), stock exhausts
This configuration is almost a Stage 3 application and needs fuel injection recalibration.

Following are the dynoruns:
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...lterDNAs-1.jpg


http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...terDNAstag.jpg

Capmoto has already posted the photos and flow data (we thank him).

This new Tenere DNA S2 filter is a regular DNA product and will be distributed through the official DNA distribution network, the official DNA e-shop www.e-dnafilters.com and through www.xt660.com

Pricing we will announce next week, including photos of the complete package.

Thank you for your interest,

Best regards,

Dino Nikolaidis

Dino,

With the new airbox cover, how much is this going to lower the wading depth of the bike ? In my experience with a modified cover on the TTR (which made a big difference to the power), due to the manner in which the water rises up the side of the bike during river crossings (or puddles as we know them here!) it reduced it by nearly 300mm. The TTR airbox modification was down the side due to the filter running vertically, where as the Tenere has a tube filter.

With the Tenere breather tube being blocked (due to heavy oil venting) any water ingress would cause a problem.

Only really a problem to those with lots of water around, we have some water crossings that are very close to the Tenere's limit here in Northern England.

Shouldn't be to much trouble if you are riding with a bunch of very good mates you would just all carry it over on your shoulders, Simple :emoticons:

If I got one I would just use it in the drier months or only when riding on road, which defeats the idea abit :confused2::confused2::confused2::confused2::confu sed2:

We are studying the possibility to produce a special cover that we can offer as an optional choice.
This cover will be open only at the top side, it will slightly reduce the air flow, but it will allow more wading depth.
It will attach on the outside of the filter when it is time for off road and it will be easy to remove if on road.
We haven�t figured out how to do it, but we are working on it.

I hope the above helps,

Best regards,

Dino

Dino - that's brilliant.

Thanks

Dna Xt 660 Z S2 Air Box Cover Filter Ready To Ship!
 

Good News for all the XTZ Tenere owners,

Finally the DNA Stage 2 Air Box Cover Filter is ready and shipping.
Detailed information is included in the attached PDF and following the first photos of the final set installed:
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...-S2BIKELOW.jpg

The complete set:
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...6E08-S2LOW.jpg

Close up view:
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...08-S2BIKE2.jpg

The Air Flow Data:
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...E08-S2REV2.jpg
The Dyno results:
http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...lterDNAs-1.jpg

http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/v...terDNAstag.jpg

This nice new mod will be also available through www.xt660.com
Capmoto will inform you all soon.

Best regards,

Dino Nikolaidis

Looks all good:toothy5:

EDITED By me.

Fozzy please forgive me if I have to edit your post, I don't want to offend the hard work DNA is doing for the forum as a whole, I fully appreciate your concern but I would prefer if these comments were kept out of the public view. Surely if you don't intend to purchase the filter, we appreciate it too. Sorry.

I have to say that when OTR rips people off with his daylight robbery prices for a pair of footpegs no one says anything, people just roll over because it's Off the Road.

With DNA you pay for quality and proven performance.

Thanks

These are such exciting news from DNA, makes me wanna get a bike again!

Ok guys if any of you hardcore Tenere hooligans wants to snap one of these these filters, below are the costs for the unit plus shipping for both Europe and the rest of the World.

The filter is €86 = equivalent to �77 GBP

Please note Dino has instructed me that the shipping costs are as follows:

Postage to all European Countries via UPS Courier (within 4 working days) is €15 = equivalent to �13.24 GBP

Postage WORLDWIDE outside Europe via UPS Courier (within 4 working days) is €30 = equivalent to �27 GBP

Please pm me if you want to order one and I'll take you through the order procedures.

Thanks

Revision dated: 14/02/2010: please note that these prices are what people will pay if they buy directly from the e-DNA website as you can see here:
http://www.e-dnafilters.com

However if you buy privately by pm thorugh me, there is an extra 10% discount for forum members only. Beat that!

Fair enough but i wouldn't buy a tap washer from OTR saved a fortune getting my power commander from elsewhere and saved nearly �50 getting my dna and stage2 airbox mod, anyone who buys from OTR before doing some research is mad.....

Thanks for being a good sport Fozzy, this was by no means a dig at you, I just need to protect my sponsors and DNA is doing a stellar job for this forum and community. Cheers

Very nice gains from the filters, well done DNA. Dino are you going to supply any Power Commander fuel maps with these filters?

Something else I have noticed the XT660X as standard produces more HP & Torque then the XT660Z standard on the same dyno. This may be because the Z dyno run was with with knobbly tyres & the X had road tyres, what do you think Freez, would the total HP difference be that much with the different tyres?

no problem at all fella:coolsmiley:

Hi Dino -

Out of interest, have you tried running the bike with just the stage 3 filter fitted, and blocking up the orignal top hole in the airbox completely and removing the original (stage 2) drum filter?

I'd be interested to see if the new stage 3 filter works better than the stage 2 set up...

Also, I've found that my Stage 2 filter and airbox lid don't seal particularly well - you can rotate the drum filter on it's seat even with the stage 2 lid screwed down tight... I've put a large rubber o-ring in the filter seat to keep everything nice and snug, but wonder if this is an issue you have come across with other customers?

Kind regards,

Jenny (currently unsponsored) Mo...

xxx

:icon_thumleft: that sounds like a cracking idea to me (+1 on the filter movement but you already know that)

Hi Kev,
The XT660Z that we worked on to develop the filter was offered to us by Yamaha Greece and it was equipped with a semi knobby tire; fortunately for us the tire was 70% worn away so we could work on the dyno with minimum loses.
With a completely street tire, hard compound, I would expect to see at least 1 hp more and better torque. But anyway this is not a problem for us, as we are on the safe side, we prefer not to be very optimistic and promise results that our customers would never achieve.

We will be sending Freez a XT660Z S2 filter for testing on his dyno, so we will see his results also.

Best regards,

Dino

Dino

Hi Jenny,
We didn�t try to run only the S2 filter for 2 reasons:
a) after completing our tests on the flow bench all the results with both filters where unbeatable, so using only the S2 on the dyno was pointless.
b) For off road use the more filtering surface you have the better it is; there is a factor that we call
� filter surface air speed� and the lower this speed is the higher the filtering efficiency.
Increasing the active filtering area and degreasing the speed of the air the moment it goes through the filter, allows more �time� for the filter to work and catch the dirt.
Now concerning the problem with the �filter moving around� unfortunately it is the results of inconsistence tolerance of the stock air box, which can vary from 1 to 3 mm.
Our filters have a tolerance of 1mm and if the stock air box is out of tolerance it could move.
If we would increase the height of our filters, very easy for us to do, the result is that the stock plastic cover breaks at the points where the bolts go through!
So you can realize that we have a very difficult case here.
Visit this link http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?p=112721#post112721 to see what Yamaha South Africa did.

Best regards

Dino

Ok so... people where are the first orders for these Stage 2 (3) DNA filter covers, I would hate that all the work done by Dino is done and people are still reluctanct to buy them, let see those PM to me with your orders...

After all, you guys asked enough times "when are the Tenere Stage 3 fliters gonna be ready?" Now they are so please make your orders.

Thanks!

If you want me to be honest then, at nearly 100 quid inc p+p I find a little steep for a air filter and I find it hard to justify that price (not saying it is not worth it). I think it would have to come down a lot in price before I would consider buying one.

That is the reason why I am not buying one. You did ask :bricks:

Im not convinced about the difference it will bring to a stock tenere.
I would rather wait until there are some reviews

True, but there won't be any reviews until someone buys one...!!!

I must say, I can see where Ricky is coming from - remember you also need to buy the Stage 2 drum filter and open airbox lid to make the most of it (hence why I wondered how much difference just using Stage 3 would make in my previous post), but I can see what Dino is saying regarding the stage 3 being supplementary to what he has already developed - for those who want the 'ultimate' perhaps?

xxx

i think the dna is the best bang for your buck, makes alot of difference, i fitted akros to mine and got around 1bhp with a stage 2 dna airbox mod and filter you would get close to 5bhp

maybe stage 3 isn't for you but a dna filter is a must, a friend of mine BIGB on here fitted a dna and stage 2 airbox mod and i had just pipes, we went out and he would leave me for dead, it would just pull away under throttle, thats why when i got home the first thing i did was was order a dna and stage 2 airbox.

i will be getting mine on the rolling road after crimbo

and that will be
dna filter
stage 2 airbox mod
Stage 3 airbox mod
akro's (De-catted)
and of course a power commander V