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theclowncrusty 21-09-09 21:14

Hi Kev,
i have followed the intructions posted on this forum for the install of the Scottoiler on the Tenere, (also same pics and instructions on the Scottoiler website). So i hope i have bridged into the right vacuume pipe, (well it all works and the bike stills runs!!!).
Only slight difference i did was to feed the clear tube through the hole in the swinging arm by the sprocket, then feed a long length of the black tube through the hole near the wheel then pull both out of the hole in the back of the swing arm box section and joined them there and then pulled the tubes back out of the holes to take up the slack. (hope that makes sense as it was so easy to do, not having to try and mess to get the black tube through the lower hole from the inside.)
Also i have mounted my spindle bracket on the inside of the swing arm between the arm and the wheel spacer, Will this cause the chain to wear as the wheel is now the width of the bracket further over? If you think it will cause an issue i was going to measure the width of the bracket then grind that amount off the outside of the wheel spacer to give the same overall spacings.
Thank you in advance for your time in answering my queries.
Mark

mickd 29-10-10 11:52

hi all,
today going to work the yellow engine light came on after about 30k's after doing the things below, and stayed on,engine is sweet, oil etc still fine,now is this due to me doing one of 2 things yesterday

1, i did a repair to the ais pipe as it had a slight ripe in it (the one that goes over the silver pipe behind the rad) all seems well,so after seeing kev's thread i took off the right side pipe(if sitting on bike)from the air box,put a bolt in etc etc as per his thread all fine..

2,removed the speedo cencer ready to fit a viper speedo (not yet fitted)by following the cable up to the white connector under the fuel tank,took apart,made water tight etc all fine,

if its one of the above how do i stop the light from stopping on?? or is it some thing wrong with the engine

kind regards mick

arranmoffat 01-04-11 20:46

It works!
 
I bought my Ten just over a year ago and it ran great. Got an electrical fault and the local Yamaha garage fixed it under warranty. However, ever since then the bike spluttered and popped all the time when I released the throttle on revs under 3k.

I found this thread and plugged up the air pipe and voila! Bike runs great again. Thank you so much.

I can only guess that the original owner had blocked the pipe, the dealer had plugged the AIS back in again, and I now unplugged it.

Thanks for the advice. Diagram helped a treat too.

fac191 25-07-11 15:37

AIS Pipe
 
Hi there, i want to block my AIS Pipe and have looked at the diagram. However the only pipe i can see is about 15mm wide and has a silver clamp at the airbox end. This pipe goes into a trianguler shaped box. It does not seen to be the same as the diagram though. Is this the right one . I am looking at the bike from the rear brake side.

JMo 26-07-11 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by fac191 (Post 159552)
Hi there, i want to block my AIS Pipe and have looked at the diagram. However the only pipe i can see is about 15mm wide and has a silver clamp at the airbox end. This pipe goes into a trianguler shaped box. It does not seen to be the same as the diagram though. Is this the right one . I am looking at the bike from the rear brake side.

No, that is the breather (the triangular box is a baffle box)... the AIS hose (as I recall) is higher up, under the edge of the seat - it goes into a valve unit up by the cylinder head, which in turn has a metal tube that goes all the way to between the the exhaust headers... if you follow the metal tube back, you'll see the routing/correct hose.

Jx

PS. If it were me, I'd just remove the whole lot and plug the hole in the airbox with a rubber bung, and put an (alloy) plate over the hole in the exhaust header... (you can simply disconnect the valve from the wiring loom, there is no fault code or anything...)

I think someone should start producing a kit for this, it's not hard, and it is a much tidier solution?

(this was my solution, using the original as a template for my blanking plate):
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...t/DSCF2833.jpg

fac191 26-07-11 11:04

AIS Pipe
 
Thankyou JMO , i will have another look. I didnt want to take the tank off if it was not needed.

JMo 26-07-11 11:17

If you just want to block the pipe, then you can take the side cover off the airbox (a few screws), and you'll see the hole for the pipe - it's basically the uppermost one in the top righthand corner (when sitting on the bike), about 10mm diameter...

Also, if you look between the frame and and the leading edge of the airbox (next to the top right hand screw), you'll see the pipe...

Jx

stuxtttr 26-07-11 17:04

apart from the backfiring is there any advantage to the AIS mod ?

JMo 26-07-11 17:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuxtttr (Post 159600)
apart from the backfiring is there any advantage to the AIS mod ?

I'm sure Kev can give you the technical details, but as I understand it, by removing the AIS and the lambda sensor, you can set up the EFi with a Power Commander more accurately, as it is now constant, rather than extra air being dumped in on a closed throttle, and the ECU trying to adjust the fueling depending on what the lambda says...

Or something like that.

If you are not running a PC, I doubt there is much benefit, other than to reduce the popping as you say...

Jx

fac191 26-07-11 18:14

AIS Pipe
 
Managed to find it. Decided to clamp the pipe, and its much nicer sounding without the popping !. Thanks again for the replies JMO .


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