Hi just spotted these on the Arrow website but can only find a site in italian listing a price of 489 euros ?

Is that for each pipe ?

see www.redracingparts.com

or the arrow website

In Germany, this company www.alphatechnik.de is selling the pair for EUR 919 for titanium and EUR 679 for the aluminum, both including german taxes. The stainless steel 1-in-2 connector pipe is EUR 189 also including taxes. They have been listing these two items since summer and were expecting availability in October but nothing happened. The italian site, this german site, and the Arrow official site post zero information on weight/weight savings from stock and power difference. I just don't understand how they expect people to buy them just with the picture and without details or info on if it fits various pannier/racks. I did write them to inquire but I am not hopeful of getting any meaningful reply.

Thanks for that info, I couldnt get any info over here. Looking at the prices I think I may hold out for a set or single can from carbon can co.