Hi folks,

Last week I finally fitted the DNA stage 3 filters and Kev mod so thanks to CaptMoto and Kev for supplying that equipment. They made a huge difference to the bike and in fact it felt like I was riding someone else's bike !

Drove 5 hours on friday and was returning yesterday when I ran into problems. I was about 40 mins into the journey and the orange engine management light came on but the bike seemed to be running fine. After 15 seconds or so the entire digital display turned on and about 5 seconds later, the speedo switched off. With that the engine cut out.

When the ignition is turned on, the dash lights up as normal but we're getting a clicking/knocking sound from the starter relay once the starter button is pressed. The dash can power off and on while attempting to start it. All fuses and wiring seems intact.

With the igintion on, the engine management light turns on for 5 long and 5 short spurts so I'm sure this is some error code.

I've left the bike with a local mechanic so fingers crossed he'll be able to sort it. After some searching here it seems people are pointing to the voltage regulator and it's connectors so we'll check it out.

Any other hint or tips out there ?

This is exactly the problem. You must check the connections between the loom connector and reg/ rectifier where they clip together. You can seaqrch this forum for the problems that others have encountered but your description of the problem is the classic 'has not been assembled' properly. I know because my bike was the first to have this problem. The pins at this connector are very small and you will find that the earthing pin might well be balckened. If it has not deteriorated too much you should be able to clean it up and then fill the connector with vaseline or grease and clip back together firmly. You should hear an audible 'click'
If the problem has been there for a while the terminals might have heated up and distorted the connector making it unreliable to make a good connection, this is where your Warrenty will come into play as some have had thier entire loom replaced. Yamaha are aware of this problem and you among many that have had this situation. All because of bad assembly.

Hope this helps. Have a look at other threads on this subject and tell your mechanis to turn his attention to the connector.

Hope you get it sorted soon.

SteveD

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Hi Steve,

Thanks for the reply. I'll be passing all this info onto my mechanic as I had to return to my workplace and must organise to collect the bike once it's sorted.

In relation to the warranty on possible loom problem, my bike is September 2008 but I purchased it 2nd hand in November 2009. Do you think it would still be covered or is it just covered 12 months from new ?

I may stand corrected on this but I was under the impression that the warrenty was for TWO years.
I'm sure someone will be along to confirm or dismiss this.

Cheers SteveD

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No need to be corrected - two years.

Damomac - you'll have to take your chances with section 14 of the Sale of Goods Act ("fit for purpose"). However, I have no idea whether anyone here has tried to claim from Yamaha for rectifier/loom repair out of warranty and how successful they were? There's loads here about this issue, have a search...

Here's a couple to get you going...

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?...ight=regulator

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?...ight=regulator

Really, two years? In Norway we have five years full warranty

He is in Ireland....

To use the Sales of Goods Act, you only have a claim against the business that sold you the goods, not the manufacturer. The dealer (assuming it was a dealer) would then need to make a claim against the buisness they bought it from, very messy with second hand goods, especially if they were not the supplying dealer initially. But in the end, as a customer you shouldn't concern yourself with what the supplier has to do. The law is there to protect consumers.

I'm not aware of any dealers being brought to book over this act. I know Bear had an issue with his ignition and was armed with the information he needed, but the dealer capitulated before he had to use the Act.

The 2 year warrenty, is a European Warrenty, so you are OK in Ireland.

Interesting about Norway, is the 5 year warrenty somehow supported by local legislation ? I can't see Yamaha offering different warrenties unless they are forced to.

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Thanks for that folks. Found the manual and it states 2 year warranty for anything over 250cc.

I believe the law says something like 2 years, but if the problem/issue is regarding something that should last longer than 2 years, then it's 5. If you get an issue after 3-4 years, you will normally have to argue a bit with the dealer, though. But, when it's stated 5 year warranty from Yamaha then there is no problem getting things fixed.

Maybe Norway is "special". Even BMW(!) has 3 year warranty on their bikes here.
This year all car brands have adopted 5 year warranty as well.