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Old 21-03-10, 16:13
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Engine cutting out fault codes

Rode to work on Monday last week. Noticed something odd when she cut out a couple of seconds after firing up (first time as usual) in the morning. Tried again turned over a couple of seconds then fired up. Rode to work no problem.

So, my woes started after work. I had a couple of erands to run so I was in & out of heavy rush hour traffic. After about 10 minutes riding she cut out when approaching the lights...thought nothing of it as I have the occasional stall. But this time she cut out again while stationary which has never happened before. After riding on it happened again, tried firing her up while moving but couldnt. The engine light was on & 19 was on the display.

Checked Buck's error code thread...19 is the Sidestand Sensor error. Could it be something else to?

What's the deal now...do I need to change anything or can this be dealt with a good clean? I know that the cables going into the sensor can be linked together to override it, but I'd rather keep that feature.

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Old 21-03-10, 16:39
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You could ask Kev.... if you were an XT Supporter...

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Old 21-03-10, 21:22
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check the cable connection on the switch attached to side stand ... it could be loose or corroded ... check that the sensor plunger is moving freely ... use some WD-40 on it
check the wiring between ECU and switch connector ... it could be damaged or broken
check that all cable connections to the ECU are attached firmly
you may enter diagnostic mode on your bike display and notice if the code no 20 is changing its value when putting side stand from resting position to drive position ...
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Old 21-03-10, 22:41
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check the cable connection on the switch attached to side stand ... it could be loose or corroded ... check that the sensor plunger is moving freely ... use some WD-40 on it
check the wiring between ECU and switch connector ... it could be damaged or broken
check that all cable connections to the ECU are attached firmly
you may enter diagnostic mode on your bike display and notice if the code no 20 is changing its value when putting side stand from resting position to drive position ...
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My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946

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Old 11-04-10, 12:44
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check the cable connection on the switch attached to side stand ... it could be loose or corroded ... check that the sensor plunger is moving freely ... use some WD-40 on it
check the wiring between ECU and switch connector ... it could be damaged or broken
check that all cable connections to the ECU are attached firmly
you may enter diagnostic mode on your bike display and notice if the code no 20 is changing its value when putting side stand from resting position to drive position ...
Ok guys, thanks for the feedback. The bike fired up no probs when I went to have a look last week, but I had a fiddle with the bits as listed above (except for the ECU) & sprayed loads of WD40 on the connectors, which were not corroded. So I went for a ride, after 10 minutes I stopped to get petrol, which is when the predictable happened....she didn't start up Managed to stop a helpful chap with a van who kindly gave me & the X a lift home.

I was going to check the ECU, but it has some sort of clip holding the cable connector in place. I didn't want to force it off in case I did any further damage. How can I take the clip off to check the ECU connections?

ALso, anyone got any other ideas as to the problem?

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Old 11-04-10, 14:45
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ok, so I just checked the ECU...all pins in place & clean as a whistle. Removed & checked sensor + all connections. Still no action

Also managed to snap off the little catch that secures the wire connector to the ECU :angry
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Old 11-04-10, 21:47
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we were talking before about sidestand switch ... if you been driving your bike for about 10 minutes and than stopped for getting some fuel on petrol station, means that you must have parked your bike on sidestand ... just try to remove that switch from its place and check weather plunger is moving easily ... I don't know for the moment if there is any possibility to dismantle it into the parts but it'll be good idea so you may check condition of interior parts, mainly contact surfaces and any sign of corrosion
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Old 12-04-10, 08:01
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we were talking before about sidestand switch ... if you been driving your bike for about 10 minutes and than stopped for getting some fuel on petrol station, means that you must have parked your bike on sidestand ... just try to remove that switch from its place and check weather plunger is moving easily ... I don't know for the moment if there is any possibility to dismantle it into the parts but it'll be good idea so you may check condition of interior parts, mainly contact surfaces and any sign of corrosion
The bike was on paddock stands before I rode it. You're right, when I was at the petrol station it was on the side stand...that's when it stopped working.

I forgot to mention that I also tried connecting the black and blue cable together to bypass the sensor (using a scredriver to connect the two pins) but it didn't work. I then disconected the battery hoping that it would reset the ECU so the fault would be cleared...still no luck.

Not sure if the senor can be dismantled, looks like a sealed unit. I'll give it a go though. Thanks for your help
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The bike was on paddock stands before I rode it. You're right, when I was at the petrol station it was on the side stand...that's when it stopped working.

I forgot to mention that I also tried connecting the black and blue cable together to bypass the sensor (using a scredriver to connect the two pins) but it didn't work. I then disconected the battery hoping that it would reset the ECU so the fault would be cleared...still no luck.

Not sure if the senor can be dismantled, looks like a sealed unit. I'll give it a go though. Thanks for your help
Check the side stand switch with a multimeter.
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
[
My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946

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