Would one of you kind chaps let me know the reference number for the NGK iridium spark plug for the Tenere please.

BTW is it worth the replacement?

I have on order the DNA stage 1, 2 and 3. I have yet to find out if it is worth also purchasing a 'power commander'. I can't see why the original CPU can't be updated via PC?

Sorry to keep asking these questions but how else does one learn?

Very best wishes to one and all,

Ryland

Hi Ryland,

I honestly believe that the Tenere runs fine without specials spark plugs or additionnal tuning.

it takes some knowledge to start playing with advanced engine setup.

But as you seem interested

http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/motorbikes_scooters.php

http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/mc_se...ere&engine=660

http://www.ngkpartfinder.co.uk/mc_extra.php?id=2594

iridium: CR7EIX

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Hi, Ryland,

I have a 2007 XTX, but as you know, the same engine.

I use an NGK Iridium spark.

So, the normal spark is NGK CR 7 E.

If you want use an Iridium spark (better, according to me), the code is :

for NGK : CR 7 EIX

for DENSO : IU 22

Ciao. Gianni.

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G'day Ryland

I think the iridium spark plugs are total BS. I have used them in my WR and all they seem to do better is "fowl easyier" but yet you pay more money for them, so i went back to normal ones and happier for it.

If you sat there and said "i can feel the difference" then you would be fooling yourself. In a bike like the tenere where the eingine is not highly strung, i can't see the need for them at all.

Just keep asking yourself this question when buying motocycle stuff.... "is this a marketing ploy"

cheers
Reg.

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I agree on the spark plug comments - mine works and I have a spare just in case it doesn't.

The ECU question is probably one for Kev, but I do not think it's possible to connect to the standard ECU - let alone re-program it..

The PC enables the user to create custom maps, so can be fine tuned to any bike. If you're going for the full air box mods, then to get the best from the engine you'll need a free breathing pipe (I have the X Racing single can) and at least the Kev fuel mod (I've got this too). Kev is working on the 02 eliminator, but even with the 02 sensor in place and connected Kev assures me the fuel mod is working fine. I've not done enough miles yet to really comment, but I can say that compared to the standard set up my K&N/Snorkel removed/X Racing/Kev's fuel mod spins up better and is much crisper - sounds better too!!!

Without going into the engine and making changes, I'd suggest the Scottoiler too. You can lose power through an unlubricated chain.

I use an Iridium plug in the TTR, it can be a pig to start at times and with the Iridium plug it certainly fires up eaiser. But there is no noticable difference to a standard one. Given that there is no problem with the 660 motor firing up, I'd keep my money for other things.

Tripletom did some research to find a programable ECU, and I think (form failing memory) it was something like �2500. The stock Yamaha one isn't programable easily, although anything with software is vulnerable to being cracked, the costs would be silly and this could easily raise a bug in another area.

For the <�300 for a PowerCommander, combined with the DNS upgrades it offers very good value for money. You could spend �500 on cans with less improvement.

There is the Kev-Fuel-Mod that has some good feedback and very cheap. Basically this fools the bike into thinking it's colder than it is and adding a bit more fuel (with the DNS filters it runs too lean).

I have the DNS Stage 2 and PC-V with the map supplied by Simon - it works very well indeed and I'm very happy with the return on my investment (and if I ever get a newer Z, I can move it to the new bike!)

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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.

and at the end of the day we're still talking about a 660cc 48BHP single cylinder "off road" motorcycle.

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I stuck an iridium plug in my Ten as I found one for close to the cost of a non iridium plug, and I like to try things out.
You cannot program the OE ECU (big shame, as Tuneboy is a marvellous bit of kit and did wonders for my old Caponord) so you are stuck with using a Power Commander to get the most from the injection.

This is worth a read for you guys over there. I don't want to put a spin on Kev's mod but for those that don't want to risk doing fuel mods while the bike is still under warranty, refer below for something your dealer should be happy to do for you..... for nicks!

This is from our local "trailzone" magazine.



A fello tenere owner here in OZ just had his first service and quized the yammy dealer about the above adjustment. So he asked how much it costs for them to do and the dealer said "don't be silly mate, pull your seat off and I'll do it now.. it only takes 2 secs". So he did, and he adjusted it then and there... The dealer says the "safe" level for hot starts is +15 on the factory setting, which on his bike was 21 (whatever that means)....

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Thank you all for the kind and informative replies. If we only spoke the same language it would be great! lol. By that I mean the jargon of mechanics.

It appears the more I ask the more I know I don't know and the LESS I understand.

May I mention I have not owned, nor even ridden, a bike in around 35 years. In that time the advancements in technology has left me way behind, to that end you guys are speaking another language to me. Lol

What is a "Scottoiler"?

What is a Kev-fuel-mod?

Now I am worried that I have bought the stage 1, 2 and 3 DNA and without this 'power commander' the bike will not function properly? I thought all I had to do was change the old filters for the new ones, that I could manage, now I understand the bike will run too 'lean' and that is not good for the engine, plus a waste of money on the DNA set up. It is a shame I didn't realise I had to spend even more money for the DNA convertion to be of value. Now, this makes me ask if I am able to find a 'power commander' what else will be needed. See my point this could become an ever ending circle of expenditure with no return or worse a damaged bike?

I must repeat, what I know about bike mechanics can be writen on the back of a postage stamp so you guys need to 'spell' things out in an ABC manner that I can understand.

So, to re-cap. I have on order, should arrive today, the DNA stage 1 to 3.

Do I NEED a power commmander? If I just fit the DNA set up will this damage the bike?

What is a "Scottoiler", do I need one and if I do where would I get one? Same question for the "Kev-fuel-mod"

In short HEEEEEEEEEELP.

I am aware I am a pain in the rear but do please try and understand I just don't yet speak the new langauage, it will take time to fit in again. I am trying! lol

One thing for sure, you guys and galls are just a great buch of members and I am looking forward to meeting you in the near future. Thank you all.

Kindest regards,

Ryland
Resident forum mechanic illiterate.