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Old 27-02-09, 01:10
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I have been watching this thread for a while now, your oil problem is bugging me, as the XTX & R does not suffer this problem & they are basically all the same motor.

Can someone please take some photo's of the oil breather system for me, from the pipe that exits the motor & winds its way to the air box. Thanks.
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Old 27-02-09, 01:46
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Having given it alot of thought and due to the amount of oil being so little when you drain it into a container(a full drain tube amount) I have been running the bike for the last 2 days (160 miles) WITHOUT the rubber bung in place!

Yes you get a few drips after the engine is switched off but very little oil spillage during riding on the bike or rear tyre- infact less oil spillage than from the Lubeman chain oiler fitted to the rear sprocket area on the other side of the bike!

Is it Yamaha fitting the bung purely as a "green" solution as its not good to drop any oil into the ecostructure. is the air breather system big enough to cope and thats why you get oil in the drain tube?

Anyone got any comments or advice?

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I'm no eco-weenie, but I don't think it's a good idea to let the oil drop out on the floor/road/trail - even a small amount can polute a watercourse for example. Also, I'd not want any oil dribbling out in line with my rear tyre, just in case... x

What is the problem with emptying out the tube once in a while? I'd rather have the bung in so I can keep an eye on the ammount - if it is excessive, then I imagine you will need to top up the oil filler eventually, then ride to the dealer and get it sorted under warrenty!

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Old 25-04-09, 08:45
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Hi Thanks for all the replies.

Having given it alot of thought and due to the amount of oil being so little when you drain it into a container(a full drain tube amount) I have been running the bike for the last 2 days (160 miles) WITHOUT the rubber bung in place!

Yes you get a few drips after the engine is switched off but very little oil spillage during riding on the bike or rear tyre- infact less oil spillage than from the Lubeman chain oiler fitted to the rear sprocket area on the other side of the bike!

Is it Yamaha fitting the bung purely as a "green" solution as its not good to drop any oil into the ecostructure. is the air breather system big enough to cope and thats why you get oil in the drain tube?

Anyone got any comments or advice?

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Hey Stridey, Just noticed your post.

Due to the design of the air box, air will be sucked in through that tube and straight into the engine without being filtered. Not a good idea when you consider where the tube terminates.

The air box on a Z is a completely different design to the X and R which is why it cannot realy be modded in any way (bar the snorkel as JMo has done).

So Stridey, put your bung back in and live with it

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Old 25-04-09, 09:01
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Hey Stridey, Just noticed your post.

Due to the design of the air box, air will be sucked in through that tube and straight into the engine without being filtered. Not a good idea when you consider where the tube terminates.

The air box on a Z is a completely different design to the X and R which is why it cannot realy be modded in any way (bar the snorkel as JMo has done).

So Stridey, put your bung back in and live with it

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This is a good point from Ray...

(Although just to clarify, I haven't modded my own snorkel, only made the suggestion...)

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Old 25-04-09, 14:59
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Oil in Air Box Pipe

Hi There ,

I have done 840 miles on my new xt660 and had to drain the pipe but two of the guys i ride with theres are the same . Just make sure your oil is topped up and ride it and enjoy it . Three of us on xt660z are going up to the scotish trails next weekend in fort willaim any one eles up for it . If you see us dont forget to beep your horn and give us wave . DAVE , GAZ & PAUL . OH FORGOT TO SAY TWO OTHER GUYS STEVE AND BOB ONE FAZER AND A SUSUKI BANDIT ( SHANE ) REGARDS NEIL4022
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Oil Drain

Hi Folks,
just read this thread with interest as having now done about 2k miles I noticed that the oil drain pipe is full!! The mileage included some lengthy blasts along A and B roads and plenty of off-road sections in France.

Now I'm not the most gifted of mechanics and although the bike's running fine I assume I should drain the pipe and then re-check the oil??

Apologies for what is bound to be a daft question!
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Old 01-05-09, 11:10
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Worth draining the pipe every now and then, oil will collect in the airbox when the tube is full. Left mine a bit too long and filled a jam jar with oil (about 200ml I guess). That was after several thousand miles however.

Oil level does not drop significantly (even with the amount I collected) but worth checking the oil every now and then anyway.
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Old 01-05-09, 11:13
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Hi Folks,
Now I'm not the most gifted of mechanics and although the bike's running fine I assume I should drain the pipe and then re-check the oil??
Yip, just open the clip with a pair of pliers (move it up the pipe a inch) pull out the bung and the oil will drain out. When your done, stuff the bung in and replace the clip!

You'll be suprised how little oil is contained in the drain pipe (unless it fills right up to, and into the airbox!).

If your oil level was right then the simplest thing to do is to put the same amount of new oil into the bike as what has just come out!
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