Im thinking of the Renthal Fatbar RC no.604. What do you think about that? Its 802mm in width, 99mm in height and 54mm sweep.

My local dealer has a good price right now, about $120 (�75).

Do renthal do some bars that are virtually the same as the standard ones?

i want the higer enduro bars but 25mm higher isnt enough rise for me so would need some small risers too...but then again the sweep can change the feel of the bars?

im always adjusting my bars / risers dependant on what im doing. EXAMPLE: if im touring i may roll them back just a touch and take a shim of of the risers.

Bars are a funny one. the only way is to try them....which takes time and money.

i find the sweep on the OE bars to be way too much. if i sit and reach for the bars i find my hands are naturally straight (off the bars) but i have to angle my hands to fit the OE bars. no idea why someone would want to hold on like that? quite often i find my hands straight but only part of my hands touching the grips.

looked on rental website and the ktm sweep is one of the least so not surprisingly i think they are a lot more natural to me as i have a couple of ktms

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Ive always gone for 613s and find them awesome. Mind taking the tank off is a bit annoying isnt it !! How easy is it to get off. At the mo Im on standard bars with a 15mm riser but not loving the way they sweep back

I have just fitted 613's to my Ten and they are superb.

Taking the tank off is easy:
Bars off first
Remove seat
Remove rear retaining plate
Remove screen, front indicator panels and tank side panels
Remove the two plastic parts the side panels screw to - important to get the tank to lift!!
Remove the two main tank mount bolts
Remove overflow pipe from left lower side
Lift rear of tank and pull back slightly
Unclip two electrical connectors (push tab in and pull apart)
Remove fuel connector security clip
Undo fuel pipe (push tab and pull apart
Prepare area to place tank with protection
Remove tank and place right way up on a flat surface.

You do need to re route the cables and check the throttle returns on both full locks.
Adjust cables free play as necessary.

Fitting is the reverse of removal as they say.

Piece of cake - done it loads of times.

Be sure to adjust throttle free play with the new bars on and in position before you put the tank back on as its fiddly with the tank on. Don't forget to slide the throttle Assy on before you clamp the bars!

Have fun.

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Eerrr - we never said it was difficult to take the tank off - its just a pain with all the bits and bobs, washers and odd and ends.........

If you don't think its a pain maybe you should try a 916. Two little plastic pins (might be one bolt I can't remember now) fuel pipew off and lift. Bodywork off in 30sec too.
ktm tanks? Three m6 bolts, pull pipe and lift.

Like I said I love my tenere but my god the jap design is crap. Tried dropping the shock? Doing the valves? Take off rad they say. Well if the pipes were half an inch longer you could clear the bottom bracket. Oh yes why weld a big bracket on the frame like that to support the rad? Ktm? Reg rec fixes with one small m6 bolt. Xt? One big bracket to frame, two m8 ? Bolts washers, spacers and a back bracket!!! Can't drop end can without taking off whole rear end..... I could go on and on. Like I said I love the bike BUT.....

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