I have been trying to reduce the cold finger syndromes on my XTR.
Tried hand guards but didn't think they did much other than increasing handle bar vibrations!
So I have been looking at the muff options.
Now would these product fit the normal handle bars (without hand guards)? And would they accommodate wearing winter gloves inside?
my ride is an XTR 2009 and the handle bar has a cross bar across it
thanks a lot

Bonjo, I use the Tucano muffs and my SUMMER gloves as with the heated grips I find that I don't need winter gloves and prefer the increased feel with thin gloves. You will need some sort of protection around the front of your levers to stop the muffs pressing on your levers at speed. I have used some cut down KTM handguards for this. I too have the cross brace, but the set up that I have described works very well and my hands are always warm.

Hope this helps.

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The Muffs will fit quite happily without guards, though if you have them why not use them. You will get more Room inside the Muffs by leaving them in place. They are originally meant to fit Vesper scooters etc, that don't have them.
The Muffs are internally reinforced to help them keep their shape and have aluminium stays that you fix to your bars. Both of these go some way to preventing the Muffs from pressing on the leavers. However once you are above 50mph there is a strong possibility that they could get pushed back by the wind force.

There are various guards that will fit inside the Muffs including the BMW 1150gs handguards. These can be bought easily from any BMW dealer (most will do mail order) for around �40.ish and will fit most trail bikes.

It's not just the big trailies that these Muffs fit. I have supplied them to fit on several other bikes with and without guards including Bandits, a Blackbird and a BMW K1200gt Oh and a Harley or two.

I better just add that: The Tucano Muffs are a very different puppy to the Oxford muffs from your local bike shop. They are much bigger and a whole lot better made, with full closures around the bars and mirrors. They will also last you more than one winter (Mine are on their fifth) and you'll be putting them away in March where you can find them easily for next winter, rather than (with the other muffs) just binning them in January because they didn't do what you'd expected of them.


Val.

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Cheers Val.

for some reason, I don't get regular notification of any updates to my post, so I went ahead & found a supplier for Tucano's. They are the bulky, fleece lined ones.
I removed the Yamaha hand guards I have bought as I didn't get on with them. They are up for sale on e-bay as we speak.
The muffs do help a lot against cold wind.
I found wearing motorcycle winter gloves, make me clumsy as they feel to bulky for reasonable movement inside the muffs. So I wear light gloves without bulky armour. Although I still find getting onto the brake lever slower.
Come warmer weather, I will look out for open ended hand guards to reduce squashed flies on my riding gloves

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Val.

Well Summers almost done, the central heating button is fast becoming a familiar location in our lives and the sky isn't looking quite as warm as it once did. Time you may be thinking, that something was done about keeping ones pinkies and knees warm.

Well! Muffs and Gauchos are here again to help alleviate your chillie bits. For now (January will see in the new 20% VAT hike) prices are the same as last years. I've also got some rather good Thermals that some might find useful. Here's a link to my thread on the GSer site, so you can see some pictures. http://www.ukgser.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239585

The Muffs and Gauchos will also fit the new 1200 Tenere. I had a little sit on one at Fowlers in Bristol. It's amazing how similar it is to the 1200GS in style and fit.


Val.