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                  nikroc  
                  I have alway's been curious as to the differences ....I cannot imagine doing any great distance on the R,for me its not that comfortable.
                  
 So how come the Z is such a good tourer?..
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             I had an R before the Z and found the R to be a much better fun bike.
            
 The surging and popping on the R just gets on your tits after a while and after having a ride on a Z I bought one as it was the lesser of two evils
            
 Both on Distanzia's and the R just seemed to handle better than the Z regardless of suspension fiddling with both.
            
 The R rags your arse in less than an hour and the Z does my knees on longer trips, I'm 14st and 6ft.
            
 I have an Airhawk on the Z which does help but I'd like to try a Touratech high seat if I get the chance to sit on somebody's with one fitted before I blow £400 to try something which may or may not work.
            
 My R was bog standard and the Z has only had handguards and the AIS blocked and a front wheel from an R and a high front mudguard.
            
 At the end of the day I'd say the Z is the better tourer as it has a more useable seat and less surging in standard form, can live with the buffeting as my other bikes are naked and each has a degree of neck blast.
            
 If I'd known about the Kev mods before I swapped bikes I would almost certainly have stuck with the R and had a seat builder do something to make it more distance friendly.
             
            
 Pete.