Hi!

Been reading this forum for week. Read ALOT since on vacation.

My first bike was supersport. Nice and fun on good asfalt-road,
not so nice on other surfaces or even bad asfalt. Or for my licence.....
Then i bought naked bike. Its alot funnier than supersport indeed,
but its still missing something.

Now its came down to me wanting road-legal supermoto/enduro.
Ive test rode an XT660X ( 2006) and it was a blast to ride!
Surging, yes, but then this can get fixed. It had akra-slipons too.
Tho it was surprisingly bad-keepen for odos read-out ( 15t km)
so its still on the shop.
But no bad word about Yamaha. I even managed to almost fell with it
when my front slipped on muddy tarmac-road, and was able to keep and
lift it up again from position where bar almost touched ground.
It was heavy yea, but seems like not too heavy lol.

Now im struggling on my choice. On the other hand, KTM's
are plenty of there in Finland, unlike X's.

What drives me towards KTM:

+Power
+Weight
+Widely spread ( you can expect to get service and parts on them anywhere)

On the other hand..

-Reputation about their durability
-Too much electrics ( especially fly-by-wire on bike FYI)
-Tank range without buying expensive bigger tank

Yamaha

+Reputation
+XT660x/r/z-series widely sold too, so parts should be largely available
+Simplicity vs. KTM
+Longer service intervals

-Weight
-Power

List would continue. I see more +�s on Yamaha, but still
cant get my mind out of KTM's due to power and weight.

I would like to hear your opinions especially if owned both of these.

My ride would consist of commuting, 400km ( one way) trips to summer cottage, longer journeys, and some playing on forest/tarmac roads.
Thats why i lean more towards X-model ( which is uncontinued in Finland,
but it looks they are sold on other countries still, so not discontinued model?? ) since most of my drive would be on asfalt,
and still want to be able to ride anywhere i want ( not swamps, forests etc,
real enduros are for there).
My needs and wants for big service intervals, technical simplicity and reliability, and need to travel longer trips, otherwise pushes me
out from real supermotos.

Is XT660X on your mind the ultimate multi-use bike?
Or would you still choose KTM? I could afford
KTM 690 SM too. Or would you choose even XT660R?
Or something else?

Thanks in advance!

I love my 2009 XTX ive owned her 3 years finished paying the finance last october and thought about part ex it for a newer model or something different looked around alot but in the end decided to keep her for atleast another 12-18 months and spend money on upgrades to her see how i feel when she has been fully modded out but in all honesty i dont think i could see me getting rid of her she may not be the best bike on paper but she makes me smile

I have owned KTM's for the past 3 years & have just bought another one a 1290 & have had 3 XTX's in a row in the past.

The XT would be one of the best most reliable motorcycles out there & anyone can service & repair them, the XT will do long distance rides no problems the KTM will brake your rear on the long rides. The XT's motor would out last any KTM's cc for cc.

The KTMS can be serviced cheaply if you do all your work yourself, if your service is dealer based the KTM starts to get expensive in the long run to maintain. The XT will never feel like or match the KTM in power/weight ratio standard for standard. The KTM's surge twice as bad as any XT660 & vibrate a lot more in the higher revs.

If you want a reliable bike that will do almost everything I would say XTX, if you want a hooligan bike the KTM wins for me.

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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946

I can repair almost anything expect programming stuff.
Have done all servicing alone so far, and repaired broken gearbox
from my ex Kasawika.

Btw, forgot to add on my starting post, i also have to be able
to carry an pillion, my wifey / cry
Ive heard about problems on KTM's "subframe" ( lightweight bike dont come alone )
and that concerns me too, riding with pillion and stuff, do they last it.

I have owned many bikes over the years and I currently have my 3rd XTX. Through this site I have really enjoyed turning my XTX into the great ride that she is today and I enjoy this bike every time I ride her. I have done touring with a passenger and luggage and she coped with no problems and reliability of all three bikes has been great. These bikes have character and they are reliable. Have fun!!!!

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(Now sold on, sob) 2011 Blue XT660X with gold wheels, was 26,500 km.
Engine mods: K&N Stage 1 filter, DNA Stage 2 filter, snorkel removed, Kev fuel mod fitted.
Plus: smoked Puig screen, Yam aluminium sump guard, Yamaha / Acerbis handguards, Givi Trekker aluminium side cases, Leo Vince X3 cans plus Kev front fork mod and Fender Xtender. Just fitted Michelin Road Pilot 3 tyres.

SOLD the XTX for a Super Ten 1200. And just bought a Raptor 700 so staying on here for some tips....

Okay.

Thanks for replies, and thanks for this great forum!

Think i managed to make my mind. It will be either XT660X/R,
not KTM nor any other.

Reading and listening experiences from folks.
Seems at KTM would be most fun out there, and judging By specs,
it sure would be!
But on other hand, i had to remind me at im needing
reliable bike to trust with, and XT definitetly seems to be very tough one.
+ By looking mods section, it aint too hard to get
near KTM number rhwp's out of it without too much compromising
reliability. And still be cost-wise under price of KTM.

All in all, dont want to write a bible,
so thanks and now for me, start to look proper X/R-model!

SimonRoma: And you can built your XTR to chase KTM bikes as well



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One question.

Is notable clunk when shifting from 1st to 2nd just normal,
as seller tried to convince me, or is it a sign of something gearbox related problem?
Other gears shift flawlessly, and no problems to find neutral when stopped,
tried that countless times on test-drive.
Its a long trip to test-drive another XT, and its not otherwise interesting,
would just test that gearbox clunking.

Mine clunks in the lower gears. Has done from new. I was a bit concerned about it at first but now I think it's normal!