Does anyone know if the Givi pannier frames like this:

Pannier frames

are compatible with the standard Yamaha rear rack? I have the OEM rack and need to know if I have to junk it and get the matching Givi item, of I can keep it on. As it is in good nick, rust-free and works well, I would prefer to keep it if I could. Has anyone combined the two?

Adthanksvance.

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BD - I just received my Givi frames but have not installed them yet as I am awaiting for the rear rack to be delivered from Metal Mule to do both at once.

I had a very good look at the pdf available on the givi site before ordering to consider whether they would work together. Maybe the picture will help you too? Link is GIVI

Thanks Dale, will have a good look at that. I was hoping someone could say "yes, I have that arrangement and it's fine" or equally "no it doesn't work", but perhaps nobody has tried this combination.

Let me know how you get on installing them. From previous experience the Givi stuff installs very easily and accurately, everything lines up, great quality and so on. Thanks for the pointer.

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[QUOTE=Black Dog;183496]Thanks Dale, will have a good look at that. I was hoping someone could say "yes, I have that arrangement and it's fine" or equally "no it doesn't work", but perhaps nobody has tried this combination.

Me too - I would rather have someone comment to either reject or ratify that this combo works

Failing a response, I can confirm that the Givi racks were very easy to install, weigh 3.5kgs and also that I wouldn't hang any hard cases from them for adventure use

Bearing in mind that I have an 08 model, which uses a different Givi model number, I think the Givi racks would work with the Yamaha rear rack.

I think that it would work because the Yamaha rear rack replaces the hand rails which are retained when installing the pannier rack. Upon installing, spacers are used on the outside of the hand rails for the pannier racks to fix against, which I suggest would still work with the Yamaha rear rack.

Worst case, if it the combo doesn't work, is that you could potentially modify the spacers. The spacers are 20mm (rear handle bolt) & 16mm (front handle bolt).

Now..... I hope someone chimes in for your *real* answer

I have a Givi topbox. You don't take the original rack off; the Givi plate fixes above it (leastways, I don't remember taking anything off and can't find any spare bits of kit in the garage that seem to have no purpose.). If the Givi side rails use the holes in the frame that Yamaha left for their own panniers, you have to take the rear light off to get access for the rear fixing nuts. If they'd only threaded the holes it would have been oh so simple (You didn't tell me that Dave!)

Dale, thanks for that. If the Givi rack goes above the handrails with spacers, it should go over the Yamaha rack too. I wasn't sure if the Givi fixings would interfere, but it looks like they won't. As I will be almost certainly using soft panniers, the light construction is exactly what I am looking for. If I do upgrade to hard panniers in the future (and I'm happy to lock into the Givi system for that), then it will be for civilised tours only - just somewhere to put the DJ and cucumber sandwiches

Graham, thanks for the tip about the fixing nuts. Captive nuts rock, at least until they get corroded and have to be drilled out. Advantages both ways

Cheers for the replies, very helpful.

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