Hi I've seen a new tool on adventure spec, it's for breaking the bead for removing the tyres, as it can be difficult.

so checkout http://www.adventure-spec.com/defaul...-tool-set.html

Noticed that the other day, I wondered how effective it would be? I can see the principle behind how it works, sounds really good, lightweight and as with all MP stuff it'll be nicely made. Just need a guinea pig to try one!

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I'd expect it to do the whole job while I made tea for that....

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That's not how to make money. If they charged half that, they would sell three times more. doah.

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Tell you what, when you set up a successful tool manufacturer, you try it that way

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pricey, you betcha!

no i liked the simple design! and a bodger like myself would have no probs making a similar set, if i needed to of course

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And I'd expect IT to make tea!!

The words "tyre lever" & "aluminium" do not belong in the same sentence.
Look how short they are as well - any longer and they'll snap I'll wager.
Proper tools require proper metal - STEEL.
Sorry to be a party pooper but they just look like more overpriced "Adventure Bike" bling.

Don't have any problems (err....apart from laziness!) with my 20 quid pair of STEEL 450mm LONG Draper levers.


To be fair...the compactness and (assumed) lightness makes sence but the price doesn't. It's like trying to reinvent the wheel and charging 2 to 3 times as much for it. A bit like a certain Germam bike with an engine derived from a WW1 radially opposed aircraft engine......

My considered response to this as a mechanical engineer is "ROFL".

For a start, forged 7075-T6 has more or less exactly the same yield stress as the EN8 steel the Draper levers are made from. It's about a third of the density, but considerably more expensive as a raw material. But hey, you don't get anything for nothing.

Also, 450mm tyre levers? What are you changing? Truck tyres? Do you ever carry them around with you, or do they live in the garage?

These threads are always amusing and annoying in equal measure. There seems to be an assumption amongst motorcyclists that designing, manufacturing, shipping and retailing stuff made out of metal doesn't cost anything. Thus if the price appears too high to the individual motorcyclist in question, then clearly the company should "just reduce the price". This is usually combined with the assumption that if the individual doesn't want a particular product, then it is impossible that anyone else might have different requirements.

As a general principle, if a product appears overpriced to you, it's probably because you are not their target market, rather than because an apparently successful business doesn't know how to price stuff.

I'm in no danger of spending �21.54 buying a piece of aluminium plate to 'protect' the bit of 1/4" steel plate which is already protecting the rectifier. That's fine, Touratart aren't trying to sell one to me, they're trying to sell it to people who like to put shiny things on their bike. It's fine to be that person too, but if you've ever seen my bike you know it's not me.

You might be perfectly happy changing tyres with a pair of crowbars. In which case Motion Pro aren't trying to sell these to you. They're trying to sell them to people for whom size, weight, and multi-functionality is important. They probably also do quite well out of people who don't really need them but like shiny things. That's fine too.

I've got a few bits of Motion Pro kit, all of which have proved to be well thought out and well made. I'm sure the same will be true for the bead breaker/lever setup. I'm not entirely sure they make sense *for me*, because I've already got a set of the Motion Pro spannerlevers to get the wheels out of my bike, so I'm not gaining from the multi-functionality, and I can get by using the sidestand. I might reconsider while I'm in the US next year and buy a set at US prices

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I spent a lot of money on travel and racing motorcycles - the rest I just squandered.

XT660Z - Commuter, Adventurer...Racer?

www.dashmoto.net

Other bikes >> MT-03 / CG125BR-J / ER-6F
Departed >> ZXR400L3 / EC300 / DR-Z400E / DR800S / GPZ500S / GS400

Thanks for the metallurgy lesson Mr. UT. It appears that you have taken my post quite personally.

One thing I discovered when working for an American cruise ship corporation (newbuilding dept overseeing design and building of new ships) is that material cost plays quite an important role in material choice.

I, like many people, have to keep a keen eye on costs therefore steel will always be my preference. And I'm bloody thankfull Yamaha felt the same by giving the Tenere a steel frame.

450mm? When it comes to leverage my friend, "length" is your friend. I though most people appreciated that lever length and required force are inversely proportional.
Yes, my tyre levers live in the garage - because I'm only a courier so find it quite easy to plan ahead for tyre changes. However, I do now have a homemade tool tube which can carry them should I choose.




Oh yes - they also double up nicely as a drift to knock steering bearings out.

Each to their own indeed and if people have the money to spend on fancy stuff then I'm very happy for them.