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Old 26-02-11, 04:10
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"How to remove Rev-Limiter Piasini ECU"

How to remove Rev-Limiter Piasini ECU

Well this mod has been a long time coming. With the resources of Richard I was put in contact with Christian from R&D Piasiniengineering who specializes in remapping & engine performance tuning. Christian took up the challenge of remapping a standard XT660X ECUs to move the rev limiter up in the rev range, after a few months of info back & forwards, Kris my mate here in Brisbane sent his standard ECU to Christian looking for a 8000 rpm rev limiter, it was remapped & sent back within a week.

http://www.piasiniengineering.com/

Kris & I had it on the dyno this morning & this was the results we got, a new rev range up 7700 rpm where a standard XT's ECU has never gone before, Standard is 7200 RPM this is a worlds first for the XT660, remapping a standard ECU.

I did hit one problem with the Power Commander after the new rev limiter was done & that was it can only be mapped to 7500 RPM with the XT660's Power Commander, with a quick email to Martin at Dynojet UK & he sent me a 10K RPM base map to load into the PCIII & that sorted that problem. There was no problem mapping the new rev range between 7200 & 7700 RPM with the PCIII.

Here is the dyno run with a before & after remap.

The ECU was flashed to the blelow spec's
Advance +3 degree on all the range
Fuel +3% from 1000 to 6000, and -2% from 7000 up to revlimiter
Adjust revlimiter to my guess to 8000
Nothing else

Kris's build.
Standard motor 04 XTX
Stage 2 Hot cam
K&N + stage 2 DNA filter, snorkel removed.
Cans
PCIII




With this new rev range we will see bigger HP XT's come out of the wood work. Christian will be able to set your rev limiter any where you want it.

I would like to thank Christian for his help on this matter & look forward to future remapping developments with his company.

Kris will be along later to tell you what he thinks of his new rev range.

The cost: 440 euro - 25% = 330 euro (included shipment back with UPS express)[/font]
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946


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Old 26-02-11, 04:48
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What a Changed Power Curve from STD Rev Limit,and To be Able To use The Over run of the Stage 2 cam, Its so much more fun to ride.

A Big Thanks To Kev & Christian for All Of There Help.

Kris
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Old 26-02-11, 04:51
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!!WOW!!

PIASINI ARE THE BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 26-02-11, 04:56
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Well you two....a world first for XT660's............how cool is that?

You have just beaten me to it too! Doh!

Firstly Kris, you have a great result for your dyno, as I see you only had DNA 1+2. I bet you are chuffed to bits with that.

Did the new ECU have a rev-limiter on it?

And did it rev up to 8000?
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Old 26-02-11, 05:05
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Kris's XT can now pull an extra 7.5 MPH (12KPH) in 3rd gear with the new rev limiter, it out pulls my XT in every gear up top. I don't think you will find many XT660 pulling 90 MPH in 3rd gear.



We could not have done it without your help Richard so you are also included in this great find, it took a few people to get to the first ECU been remapped.
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946


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Old 26-02-11, 05:10
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By going over the cam,or revving it higher, you can now keep the engine "on cam".............
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Old 26-02-11, 05:16
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Kev....we needed you on this first test......as it was unknown territory.........

So, a big cam is now a much more viable project in the XT now......
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Old 26-02-11, 05:21
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O yes mate for sure, I want a 5050 cam from my next project if I decide to get another XT next year. Daniels cam has been the best all rounder I have seen on paper & with this mod your bike is going to fly.

This new mod offers you to carry the HP even higher & achieve greater HP's. The only draw back is we need to stay safe with the rev range, I personally would fit stronger springs if I were to rev over 8500rpm. But then you would need a bigger cam to get there which would require a bigger spring change anyway.
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946

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Old 26-02-11, 05:21
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I think we will now see a bit more of this, in future XT projects...I'm showing you this as it is the same camshaft as yours Kris, but a different spec. But look at where the max power is, compared to where the Standard XT rev limiter comes in at 7200.

STAGE 2 HOTCAM VS. STAGE 3 HOTCAM..just a different build. (Raptor 700 with 12:1 CP Piston, Stock Valves+timing+throttle body, cylinder milled .050"

I wouldn't want to run that high a compression, and it probably wouldn't work on petrol pump fuel....but it is a very cheap mod to do, relatively speaking of course. We know that the Hotcams do need a piston of around 11:1-11.5:1......and that is something that would be perrrrrfect in a XT.

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Old 02-03-11, 10:38
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Ok, Kev, is that dyno result that you posted just an ECU swap, or was it after optimising the fuelling?

and was your baseline map fully optimised?
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