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Old 13-12-10, 12:17
G4ND3RS G4ND3RS is offline
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gear changes

posted this in the wrong section earlier - reposted in the X section

Hi All

Just been out on my XTX '56 for the 1st time since i've had it. Being in sheffield, the roads have only JUST cleared. The bike has been sat in the garage tempting me for over a week!

This is my first single, and my first bike in a few years. My first bike was a Yam Thundercat, to give you an idea of what i am used to.

I am loving the riding postion and feel of the bike, makes you ooze confidence. It feels nippy, but not over powered. Basically I feel in complete control of the bike and not just a passenger.

The only issue I am having is when to change gears. Due to the absence of a RPM counter, and it being my first single, I appear to be getting it all wrong.

I am reguarly at the rev cut out of the engine, which seems really early compared to what i am used to, and when i change earlier the engine is having a complete eppy and i have to change down again.

I understand that I will learn more about the bike as i ride more. However, any pointers / suggestions to help me along would be appreciated.

All the best, ride safe

Stu
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Old 13-12-10, 13:33
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You need to recalibrate your brain from the higher reving engine, the 660 single is a plodder, that said dont labour the engine as it hates it as you have found out. I dont have a rev counter either, you will soon learn how to ride the beast. There is very little to be gained by reving the nuts out of the low reving engine. You certainly dont need a rev counter for normal riding.
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Old 13-12-10, 22:21
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+1

If you want a better spread of HP & Torque you need a set of after market can's a DNA stage 2 air filter & a fueling device this will allow you to pull from a lower RPM & the bike will have more power across the RPM range & feels so much better to ride.
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946

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Old 14-12-10, 10:28
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Question

Thanks for the advice chaps.

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you need a set of after market can's a DNA stage 2 air filter & a fueling device
How much would this set me back?

My bike is stock set up. I am confused why Yamaha would market a bike that requires so many aftermarket mods to make it "perfect"!!? I have ridden a couple of other yams, and owned one, and have found them to be excellent "out of the box" compared to some of the competition.

I am loving the ride and feel of the XT though.
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Old 14-12-10, 11:00
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Thanks for the advice chaps.



How much would this set me back?

My bike is stock set up. I am confused why Yamaha would market a bike that requires so many aftermarket mods to make it "perfect"!!? I have ridden a couple of other yams, and owned one, and have found them to be excellent "out of the box" compared to some of the competition.

I am loving the ride and feel of the XT though.
I have owned 43 motor cycles & have just about modified everyone, I don't think I have ever owned a perfect bike. The XT responds well to most mods & it does change the ride for the better.

5/ Fuel devices.

1/ Power Comander PCIII & PCV
http://www.off-the-road.de/Other-bikes/Engine-Tuning/Dynojet-Power-Commander-Yamaha-XT-660.html?listtype=search&searchparam=power%20comma nder

2/ Rapid Bike
http://www.rapidbikeusa.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?search=action&category=1287&keywords=a ll

3/ Ignijet
http://www.ignitech.cz/english/ignijet/ignijet.htm

4/ Memjet
http://www.memjetmodule.com/products-page/yamaha/

5 SFI
http://www.staintune.com.au/sfi_yamaha_xtx660.htm

6/ The Kev Fuel Mod.
http://www.xt660.com/site/node/136

Can's
http://www.xt660.com/site/node/333

DNA filters, send a PM to Captmoto for a price including your forum discount.
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946


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Old 14-12-10, 11:09
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dna Stage 2, and a Kev fuelling mod is the cheapest way to go, for value for money.

If you find "Main Site" in your top right hand corner of this page, you will come to the DNA stuff, and I suppose pm Kev for the fuelling mod.
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Old 14-12-10, 14:00
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Thanks for the advice chaps.



How much would this set me back?

My bike is stock set up. I am confused why Yamaha would market a bike that requires so many aftermarket mods to make it "perfect"!!? I have ridden a couple of other yams, and owned one, and have found them to be excellent "out of the box" compared to some of the competition.

I am loving the ride and feel of the XT though.
Its easy to get overwhelmed by all the info on this site and to start a shopping list so early in a bike ownership can be fraught with money down the pan issues! Ride it and adjust to personal preferance.

Having owned 3 XTX's not one has been the same spec. My current one came with aftermarket carbon fibre cans - sold em! I run a stock air filter as well & stock suspension. Yes you can improve the bike just look at Kevs mod list. To be honest I dont think its needed other than sorting out the fuelling. I have a Kev mod fitted and that is it for performance upgrades. The bike is fast enough as is, handles well and brakes well.

Any other mods are visual and dont offer any real benefits for me.

I love my XTX and its an older version. I owned the new style one and preferred the older ones - go figure!
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Old 14-12-10, 14:29
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In agreement totally Tony. I plan to ride through the winter and see how my riding style adapts. So far I have not had any experince of the "surge" issues, so it maybe that this has had some modifications done at dealer so far. For me the bike is just awesome, plenty quick enough. Awesome, confidence inspring handling etc. Just filled her up for the first time today.

Once march is here and the road conditions improve, then i will look at the Kev Mod if needed, and potentially a DNA filter.

Before then though I am looking for some handguards with air deflectors (let me know if you know of any), but more importantly a higher/touring screen. Does anyone else run a taller screen? any recommendations??
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Its easy to get overwhelmed by all the info on this site and to start a shopping list so early in a bike ownership can be fraught with money down the pan issues! Ride it and adjust to personal preferance.

Having owned 3 XTX's not one has been the same spec. My current one came with aftermarket carbon fibre cans - sold em! I run a stock air filter as well & stock suspension. Yes you can improve the bike just look at Kevs mod list. To be honest I dont think its needed other than sorting out the fuelling. I have a Kev mod fitted and that is it for performance upgrades. The bike is fast enough as is, handles well and brakes well.

Any other mods are visual and dont offer any real benefits for me.

I love my XTX and its an older version. I owned the new style one and preferred the older ones - go figure!
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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
[
My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946

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You certainly dont need a rev counter for normal riding.
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