Just tried to fit the PC111. Took me hours. I am furious so will write the minimum possible for fear of writing something I shall regret tomorrow. Needless to say it was FAR from 'simply undoing a few bolts and lifting the tank so I could get my hand under'. I have small hands and not even I could shift that bloomin plug from the injector. Took hours.

Started the bike and no go. On the tacho' there is a key with a red light above it. This flashes and will not go out? Bike tries to start but will not.

Now The totaly inappropriate useless instructions I was sent is for a 2004-2007 Yamaha XT660R. NOT the Tenere. I DO understand they may well have the same engine BUT BUT BUT the wiring is NOT the same, the frame is not the same so what good are the instructions? May as well as been for a BMW series 3!
I could find nothing that looked like the 'TPS' Connector in the diagram supplied. Now, toward the front of the bike high up under where the tank sits is a connector that took the supplied fitting bot DID NOT look like the TPS in the drawing supplied?

Sorry, I am angry, so need to moderate my tone.

What adds insult to injury is the instructions say " Install the power commander in the TRUNK using the supplied velcro. WHAT trunk?

Can any of you guys or galls please assist me in finding this "TPS CONNECTOR", what worries me is what I have fitted this plug to? Any pictures would be very much appreciated. Look if it costs a few euro to get the correct info I will gladly mail a cheque. The instructions supplied are as usful as boobs to a nun. Excuse my course language I have back ache that would down a camel.

Again I write PLEASE help I am stuck with a bike I can't use and cant ride to a dealer to fit for me?

I simply detest these performances where all is so simple yet the instructions and diagram don't match the bike? I ask you what good is that?

Thank you for your kind asistance.

Ryland

Well its now early morning and the sun is due up in an hour. Spent all night bashing away at the bike.
I found a thread here that showed where the TPS is, its just tightly in front of the air box. Was hell to remove the old plug add fitting the new one. Had to remove the crash bars and side plates and the dogs food bowl, lol. Can now report have completed the task and the bike started. Much to late, or early for a test drive and my dearest has now told me to sleep in the spare room whats left of the night! Dog house for me!

Boy oh boy is this bike bug getting to me again, I'm simply too old for this sugar.

Tell you what if I can't tell the difference later in the day to the performance I shall be driving the bike straight up some ones trouser leg! lol.

Best wishes to one and all.

Ryland

LOL!! Great thread


Glad you got it sorted

(while we were cosily asleep in our beds)

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Glad you have got it all sorted, we have all be there sometimes you just can't see the wood for the trees

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What Bill Clinton REALLY said to Monica Lewinsky was: "Sack my cook"

Sadly Bike now sold 11/6/11

I thought only the PC V was compatible with the Tenere ... but I may be wrong (and certainly is obviously)


As I wrote before, I think you are trying to do too much, too fast.

Take your time, document yourself and I would recommend:

- not starting a work on the bike late in the day, but preferably early (shops opened, help available, clear mind, ...)
- get all the documentation before and read it thouroughly several time (including workshop manual, owner manual, part documentation)
- before unplugging anything and installing a new part, verify that you know what is where and how. Make sure that anything you do can be undone/fixed.
- search the forum for identical work carried and read the threads to benefit from other users experience.
- using a explicit title for your threads like : Where's the TPS conenctor on a Tenere or - Trouble fitting Power Commander on Tenere. "please help" doesn't help anyone and will not make your thread easy to find for future reference. Think that your threads should also help others and be easy to find.
- searching before starting a new thread: Watch this http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

As you said, you've been away from bike for a long time.
I would humbly recommend familiarising yourself with riding the bike and carrying basic maintenance before attempting performance modifications.
aka: chain/sprocket care, oil/filters replacements, suspension settings, brake maintenance.

The bike in its standard clothes fits 95% of its users. Including some very advanced riders.
The bike has been built by engineers and I believe that engine modifications should only be performed by informed professionals.


I personally do all my work on the bikes on saturday mornings and I'm done by sundown.
I do not always manage to do everything I planned, but I make sure that I have time to stop/re-assemble/get the bike running before sundown.

Then there's always the day after or the next w-e to complete the work.

but that's only my 2cents.

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Good advise

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What Bill Clinton REALLY said to Monica Lewinsky was: "Sack my cook"

Sadly Bike now sold 11/6/11

I hope you realize once you start modding you won't be able to stop.

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Mods that I have done to my XTX's

My 04 XTX
Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil /
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My 07 XTX
Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator /

My 09 XTX
59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details

Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS

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Start early and if you aint done by early evening walk away, go and have a beer and torment the wife. Continueing to work on the bike results only in spanners bouncing off walls and raised blood pressure.
THERES ALWAYS TOMMOROW. . . . . . . . . . ALWAYS

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nah start late and finish early much more fun race for the last bits of light then spend hours searching for lost parts in the dark give up and do it all again in the morning

Hi,

Thanks for the reply You are indeed a wise person.

Oddly I work best after dinner? I am a natural night owl. Had I started the project in the morning the bike would now be..........well, it wouldn't be if you see what I mean. Lol

You are also correct when you write that the standard bike is great for 95% of its users. Problem with me is I joined this forum and learned all about the mods etc, lol. Big mistake.

I have spoken to mechanics in this country who do NOT suggest fitting a power commander to the Tenere as the wiring-electronics are not the same as the PC111 as for the bikes it was sold me for, ie 200-2007 XT660R.
As you write I have been away from bikes for 30 years and more. To this end I depend on trusting others.

I did want to tune the Tenere as I have found it rather 'agricultural', best discription would be akin to a diesel on streroids, lol. Guess what after spending rather a lot of cash I now have a noisier diesel that drinks petrol and has made such a tiny difference to the performance of the bike. One lives and learns.
Before I am shot, let me write this. I do get it, I do understand why we want all the mods and tit-bits we can change. I understand the psychology of our desires. Problem is I fear the sales people share the same psychology and sell things knowing they are window dressing and not 'always' money well spent.

This will prove to be a very unpopular post but since when I have been dishonest with my posts. I think we deserve better than we get regarding Yamaha (Italian quality just stinks), some dealers and certainly some of these so called mods.

My pertol consumption has dropped not improved. Why? well now I am supposed to have all these extra horses I am trying to use them or why would I have spent the cash buying the neddies in the first place, logic eh? Regardless of what we are told the more one uses the Right wrist the more the engine will drink. If we don't desire to use the Right wrist what the heck is the point in making the mods in the first place, just buy a 125!

All in all, I am disappointed with both DNA and Power commander. DNA, as the initial airfilter is a tad too small and is not a good fit out of the box PLUS to place an open side filter on an enduro is crazy, eventualy it has to get damaged? Just one drop in scrubland and a twig or some other small object will perforate the filter resulting in a new one..

Power commander can't even supply fitting instructions for the Tenere and the diagrams shown as absolutley useless. I don't own a 2004-2008 XT660R and the diagrams shown don't resemble in the slightest the Tenere? Why even put them in the box?
Further to be informed that it is "simple" to fit is just plain untrue. "Just undo the two back bolts on the tank and lift it a little etc" Pure fiction. Not even a baby could remove that plug in the space offered buy 'just lifting the tank and inch'. It is major work that needs side panels and all tank fixings removed with the tank being rainsed at least 3" to pass a hand under it. Then where is the "Trunk" mentiond in the fitting instructions to place the PC111? What bloomin trunk? As for the TPC fitting........give me a break. I ended up replacing that while being held upside down by a group of circus acrobates! I also had my small fingers made even smaller by some Amazon tribe! IT WAS HELL. I can laugh now but wow I could have committed a murder that night!

At present I am not a happy bunny with the quality of the bike, its just awful for Yamaha and not in the least impressed with these modifications. I fear most members who do make these modifications will believe they do well but do they realy make a difference? To suggest they save on petrol is also odd.............but..............

End of rant. Lol

A very BIG thank you to those who supported me through the initial stages of re learning the joys of bike ownership. The membership here is a true family.

I shall NOT be fitting any further so called mods to the Tenere. As you write it is a very good bike from the start.

Ryland
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