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 10-06-09, 17:28
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Motty AFR tuner - the PowerCommander killer
Hi!
Here (in estonia) we have a bike tuning shop www.dragbike.ee who specialises in rebuilding bikes to extreme. So what they say, when it comes to modding, is usually true. They are offering something called AFR tuner, which is 3 times more expensive than PowerCommander, but they claim this it is much better because when it is installed and tuned for your bike, it will keep itself automatically tuned nomatter what you do with your bike later. For example, you are changing your air filter, you are fitting the stage II filter, removing the snorkel, fitting another exhaust etc etc. - and the AFR keeps adjusting itself back to "normal" mode so the AFR ratio is always correct. They (dragbike dudes) say that for example, on a longer trip, when roads are dusty and air filter doesnt let much air in anymore, AFR automatically adjusts to it, so the mixture wont be too lean (correct me if im wrong here, if not enough air is let in, then it will be too much fuel, correct?). Here is my question - has anyone ever tested something like this? I have a 07 model XT660R and my first thought was - powercommander cannot be fully tuned because of my 07 ecu, what about this AFR Tuner thingy? I bet Kev has some kind of answer to this, but if anyone else has something to share, pelase do so.
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10-06-09, 17:34
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Chap,
The new recently released PC5 will do the same at approx �275 + a dyno tune, but is only suitable for fuel injected bikes. Have a read on the Dyno Jet website abt the PC5 - long overdue but will be fitting one very shortly... WB 
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10-06-09, 17:40
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but as i understand, it is for 2009 and up models only?
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10-06-09, 23:26
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It will work fine from 07 onwards with 02 sensor. PCV with auto tune.
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12-06-09, 08:53
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Kev you have already tried it?
But how is PC5 compared to PC3 with the 07 version, since PC3 cannot be fully adjusted because of the ECU. Same with PC5? |
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12-06-09, 11:28
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A PCV with Auto tune will be able control of the whole fuelling system on a 07/09 XT660X/R, the Auto tune replaces the XT's narrow band O2 sensor with a wide band O2 sensor to take control of the fuel mapping. The 07/09 XT660X/R ECU's are inter changeable I know this for a fact. A PCIII does not have Auto tune. I don't think you understand that a PCV & Auto Tune are two separate devices. A PCV by it's self can not tune the bike automatically you would need to build a fuel map on the dyno the same way as the PCIII is done. Add a Auto Tune to the PCV & the Auto Tune will build a fuel map for you while you ride. The Auto Tune does not work on the PCIII as there is no Can Bus protocol. http://www.dynojet.com/support.dynoj...VUserGuide.pdf http://www.powercommander.com/downlo...des/AT-200.pdf 
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Click here to join the XT Supporter's scheme Mods that I have done to my XTX's My 04 XTX Stage 1 & 2 DNA filters / Kev fuel mod / snorkel mod / Drilled air box mod / Engine breather mod / Fork Spacer mod / 15w fork oil / [ My 07 XTX Raptor 700 cylinder 102mm / Modified Crank Case to take a 105mm Raptor Cylinder / 11:1 102mm JE Raptor piston / Stage 1 Raptor Hot Cam / Ported head / Colder Spark Plug / +2mm Throttle body / DNA stage 1 & 2 filters / Modified Air Box / Snorkel removed / Worry Brothers stage 2 filter cover / 6mm & 8mm Bolts Replaced with Titanium Bolts / Recovered seat in Black / O2 Eliminator / My 09 XTX 59HP at the rear wheel / Stage 2 Raptor Hot Cam / DNA stage 3 Air Box / Carbon Can Exhausts / Modified Exhaust Link Pipes / PCIII With Custom Fuel Map / Wideband Commander O2 Data logger / LCD100 Dyno Jet display & fuel adjuster / 2500 OHM HT lead instead of a 10K OHM XT lead / Extra Coolant Cooler / Protaper Fat Bars / Tail Tidy With LED Tail Light / OKE Protection Knobs / LED indicators / AIS blocked / Modified rear sprocket rubbers / Rear Foot Pegs removed / 09 ECU With 02 Sensor Changed To A 06 ECU / Complete wiring harnes Changed from 09 to 04 / Home made LED resistor flasher / Hole drilled in the fuel tank filler neck to allow quicker filling / Modified Bar End Weights / Progressive front fork springs, 15W fork oil, forks lowered 25mm, used XTR rear links lowering the rear 20mm, rear spring one click stiffer / Changed front & rear guards from blue to black / 47T rear sprocket / Speedo Healer V4.0 / Kev throttle cam mod / Throttle grip mod / The new 2010 O2 sensor mod is out, works a treat, The new 2012 O2 Controller is out, PM me for details Now ride a 2018 MT09SP ABS + TCS My KTM 990 SMR Mod book. http://www.ktmsmt.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=4946
Last edited by Kev; 12-06-09 at 11:45. |
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