Hey Bonjo......surely no one ever goes 'back' to Tourance!, a truly horrible tyre. And Pleiades makes a good point about the date mark on the tyres ....I took a tyre I'd bought online to be fitted only for the m to tell me the tyre was 8 years old...according to the marking on the tyre. To be fair I was given a full refund and kept the tyre...but it's something to be aware of . Steve