If you watch my little video of me bimbling up Chalkpit lane and then watch a video called Procesgnilny. ..fast off road action, it's the same bike as mine, the same Chalkpit lane and I admire his skill....but...my bikes too precious and my bones are too precious! , although it does show what the Ten's capable of. Look at JaumeV for example. I was beating myself up a bit for not riding harder faster off road , but the reality is I don't want to trash my bike and I want my green laning to be relaxed and enjoyable . Steve