Hi AA
        
 I've got the Wolfman panniers
         
        
 
         
         Black on black is not the best to see but i like them and they work well ,not the best to fit ,you can see i have one of the straps round the plastic but once on , stay on.
        
 They aren't W/P but do protect you knees against wind and rain
         
        
 Heres a better pic
         
        
