Well the M&P stuff took 4 days and the OTR stuff took 5 days. The main difference was the quality of service... OTR told me straight away they were out of stock of the bash guards but i had to call M&P to find out they hadn't sent the boots i ordered as they can't get hold of them even though they are still advertising them on there site.

Forget all that crap though, OTR included a packet of Haribo