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jasext 03-12-07 18:42

Finally Done It
 
I have finally converted a set of "X" wheels onto my "R"
this is how it was done
(1) replace brake disk with the R (smaller)one
(2) remove small mudguard (bolts rub the tyre )
(3) move brake line to the outside of the fork (not shown in photo)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1196703249


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1196703388

FostersMonster 03-12-07 18:50

superb!

look forward to more pics of them both on!

plesm 03-12-07 19:18

Very skilful, but better have both X and R:laughing11:, so that you dont have to change the wheels:yahoo:

jasext 03-12-07 19:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by plesm (Post 40508)
Very skilful, but better have both X and R:laughing11:, so that you dont have to change the wheels:yahoo:

as well has having an aprilia rsvr ,
DONT THINK SO :Tongue_HKIM7O:
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...g?t=1196706597

plesm 03-12-07 22:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesoimtold (Post 40509)
as well has having an aprilia rsvr ,
DONT THINK SO :Tongue_HKIM7O:

I see:smile[2]:
Nice Aprilia, my brother has RSVR vintage 2001, very powerful italian V-twin:smilies0346:

jasext 03-12-07 23:13

It is probably the best bike i have owned (had a few ) for fun factor ,unfortunately i am selling it due to not using it ,it has less than 2500 miles on and with the arrival of a third child ,the xt and a caravan it is getting used less and less so its up for grabs for a bargain �4500

plesm 04-12-07 09:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesoimtold (Post 40531)
It is probably the best bike i have owned (had a few ) for fun factor ,unfortunately i am selling it due to not using it ,it has less than 2500 miles on and with the arrival of a third child ,the xt and a caravan it is getting used less and less so its up for grabs for a bargain �4500

My brother solves similar problem RSVR is first-class bike without doubt, but is very expensive for riding(tire-eater, fuel consumption and high price of spares). So he thinks about selling this bike and purchase something less sophisticated.

maxwell123455 04-12-07 10:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesoimtold (Post 40506)
I have finally converted a set of "X" wheels onto my "R"
this is how it was done
(1) replace brake disk with the R (smaller)one
(2) remove small mudguard (bolts rub the tyre )
(3) move brake line to the outside of the fork (not shown in photo)

So just to get this correct you replaced the X's disc on the X's wheel with the R's so no need for different calpier or anything like that.
Removed the we crappy black plastic mud guard as it rubs on the small X sized tyre
Moved the brake line from the inside of the wheel to going around the out side so as not to rub it to death.

Was there any problems with spacings/spacers or anything?? Also how much in total did it cost you to complete (wheel + extras)?

And i take it your looking into then changing the rear wheel as she must feel a we bit front heavy now it will be leaning forward due to the different front wheel sizes?

Kev 04-12-07 11:17

Nice work, don't forget to fit the rest of the front rotor bolts.

I am interested in your ride report, with the X & R having different lower fork legs with different trail angles due to the front axle being more forward on the R. Let us know.

jasext 04-12-07 17:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxwell123455 (Post 40561)
So just to get this correct you replaced the X's disc on the X's wheel with the R's so no need for different calpier or anything like that.
Removed the we crappy black plastic mud guard as it rubs on the small X sized tyre
Moved the brake line from the inside of the wheel to going around the out side so as not to rub it to death.

Was there any problems with spacings/spacers or anything?? Also how much in total did it cost you to complete (wheel + extras)?

And i take it your looking into then changing the rear wheel as she must feel a we bit front heavy now it will be leaning forward due to the different front wheel sizes?

yes everything correct ,no probs with spacers as i used everything of my "R" and they fit perfect on the "X", all it cost was a set of second hand wheels ,i did'nt put the rear wheel on as is is winter and will be using the bike offroad until the weather breaks ,as soon as i change them i will keep every one updated

marcnicol 04-12-07 17:40

Is that a Dunlop Mutant on the front? If so, what's it like?

jasext 04-12-07 18:08

Dont know anything about the tyres or how it rides yet ,just wanted to make sure that it could be done ,will keep everyone posted when i change the wheels over to the supermoto ones when the weather breaks as i am doing offroad riding during the winter,maybe fostersmonster could help you on the tyres as thats who i bought the wheels off

marcnicol 04-12-07 18:54

Cheers mate, I'll drop him a PM

anti_static 06-12-07 15:10

Hello, Davesoiamtold.
X's rear wheel is wider than narrow R's rear swingarm!

jasext 07-12-07 17:14

hello anti static but have you tried it because,in a panick after ordering some new patrs ie:cush drive,brake disk plus a few others,I i went outside in the pissing down rain AND COMPLETE DARKNESS ARMED ONLY WITH A TORCH last night to check and guess what
IT FITS NO PROBLEM
SO PLEASE IN FUTURE UNLESS YOU HAVE TRIED SOMETHING AND KNOW FOR A FACT PLEASE LEAVE OUT THE COMMENTS
I THANK YOU

FostersMonster 07-12-07 17:25

superb!
be good to see more pics as you work through getting them fitted
and maybe some of you in the rain for us to laugh at hehe :Speedy_Superhero_Q3

only kidding :smile[2]:

CaptMoto 07-12-07 17:37

in anycase..... let's all calm down :angel5::angel5::angel5:

cheers

jasext 07-12-07 18:13

NO PROBLEM CAPT but i asked many times on the forum about doing the change over and had many replies saying that it could'nt be done or it would cost to much,that this did'nt fit or that did'nt match ,but i thought what the hell and tried it ,and found that it was very easy to do ,so when people tell you different WITHOUT EVEN TRYING it really gets on my tit ,fair enough if they have tried but if they havent they should say and just voice theyre oppinion

:3some:

CaptMoto 08-12-07 03:45

Yes but I thought I had always mentioned also to other people, that it can be done provided you are prepared to change brake caliper and disc, as for the rear swingarm someone said the R its narrower, I didn't even pay attention to that cause we all know they have exact same swingarm (04-06 only models) and that the hubs on both the X and the R are exactly the same except for the spokes and rims of course.

Emphasis on the "I didn't even pay attention" often a quite life is better than bickering and keeping on disagreing with people. I just let it run as they like.

But you will have noticed that we have a tendency of keeping a very welcoming and absolutely friendly forum and at no time we would want it to be argumental between members. We are totally chilled, so even if someone is talking out of their backside we tend to live and let live, with the exception of b0ng0man of course where we all had to lay into him for the absolute tosh he spoke, that couldn't be helped not even in a room full of tibetan monks.

If something gets on your tits, then it's just one of those things that happen, you wanna see the amount of crap that gets on my tits and I just keep on ignoring it... bah..... It's Xmas let's be merry aye? :angel7:

On our next summer ride you should come an meet us, stay the night in a cheap B&B, we'll show you the sights ;)

jasext 08-12-07 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 40773)
On our next summer ride you should come an meet us, stay the night in a cheap B&B, we'll show you the sights ;)

lived near guilford for 5 years whils serving in the army so spent a few nights out down your waY ,BUT why dont you come down this neck of the woods the roads are fantastic ,you can go for miles upon miles without seeing a single car and the views are breathtaking have a look at the ride report we done on the north wales trip ,:smilies0948:

maxwell123455 08-12-07 16:17

I second daves thing about going to wales, is a great place for the bikes, plenty of we twisty roads that no one ever uses apart from the random locals. Anyway if some thing is getting on your tits just chill the beans and move on to a different post or just forget about it. I to speak crap sometimes and hate hearing it from others (try working on a construction site where everyone thinks that know it all)

I also see there is a new guy from brazill who has had his XTR changed into a SM bike with just changing over the wheels.

CaptMoto 08-12-07 16:21

Well look closer at this bike and you can tell by the 2 tell tale signs i.e. the front fork longer than the X and the silver rear swingarm that this is another XTR converted to XTX

http://www.xt660.com/gallery/display...hp?imageid=947

maxwell123455 08-12-07 16:24

Tis indeed an R dressed as an X. Like the paint job he has. But what is gonna happen with Valley now he is on Bridgestones??? He may even have to dump his M1 and get a good old XT on the race track!!!:icon_scoot[1]:

anti_static 12-12-07 16:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesoimtold (Post 40738)
IT FITS NO PROBLEM
SO PLEASE IN FUTURE UNLESS YOU HAVE TRIED SOMETHING AND KNOW FOR A FACT PLEASE LEAVE OUT THE COMMENTS
I THANK YOU

Excuse me, was wrong. Wrote, that saw. My friend has R and wish to get X wheels.
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/5...40279_1.th.jpg
We did not measure swingarms in mm, but visually there is no place for a wheel on 160 mm. I am glad, that "IT FITS". I'll please the friend with good news.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 40742)
in anycase..... let's all calm down...

+1

jasext 12-12-07 20:31

yes no probs anti static,just got fed up with people telling me that everything i tried to do did'nt work but had no experience with it themselves so i apologise for a going a bit over the top



:spanking[1]:

Mattithyahu 21-04-08 08:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 40564)
Nice work, don't forget to fit the rest of the front rotor bolts.

I am interested in your ride report, with the X & R having different lower fork legs with different trail angles due to the front axle being more forward on the R. Let us know.

Im olso interested in ride report! Is it OK? Im about to convert my R to X and Im a bit worried about front wheel being smaller 4" and Im afraid my bike will be leaned forward to much.

jasext 21-04-08 20:55

very good handling and the turning speed is super fast ,you will be throwing it around like a toy once you get up to speed with the faster turning

Mattithyahu 21-04-08 21:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by davesoimtold (Post 53072)
very good handling and the turning speed is super fast ,you will be throwing it around like a toy once you get up to speed with the faster turning

Oh thanx!!! Thats very comforting! Thanx for quick reply!
So there is no fear that I'll rub my footpegs to the ground too soon? Did you put harder oil to front forks maybe? If you did, what hardness factor oil did (or would) you use? And some people scare me with comments like: "your brake disc will be overheating etc etc". Did you notice any overheating?
Im sory for asking 100 stupid questions, but since you are the only guy who actually tryed this convertion and comments it, your are my only hope for good night sleep :)
Thanx again!

jasext 21-04-08 21:55

The problem is people keep putting they view across without even trying it in the first place, :occasion18: as you might have read in one of my previous posts they assume things and thats why i got fed up and made me more determined to do it ,the bike runs jus aswell if not better then the X due to the rake in the forks ,i have not done anything with the bike accept Kev font fork spacer,k&N filter and Arrow exhausts,maybe i would stiffen the frond end with progrssive springs if i was using it more with the supermoto wheels but as i do more trail riding the are fine for my weight 16.5 stone

-ralph- 30-10-08 12:22

Hi there,

I'm a newb to this site. Currently on an SV650 and looking to change (in May 09 when I've finished paying for the SV) to a sports bike and a multi-purpose bike (funnily enough JaseXT it's an 04 onwards RSVR Factory that I have my heart set on, but i've yet to test ride one and fully make my mind up!)

The sports bike would be a sunny sunday's only toy and the multi-purpose bike would be for commuting during the week, light off-roading at weekends and touring holidays(bridleways, forest trails,etc).

I had a holiday in Mexico this year where I did two weeks of touring on a Honda NX400 Falcon, including some off roading, and loved it (if your interested say so, and I'll post pics and video), so I decided to do some more stuff like that both at home and in europe (France, Spain, Portugal, would like to do a trip over to Morroco, etc.

So I've been looking for a bike that can do motorway, commuting, touring, light off-road, etc and I've settled on the XT660R, hence joining this forum.

I rode a DR400SM a few weeks ago and loved the Supermoto handling, but I do want a bike that can handle the off-road stuff also.

So thats my background and why this thread interests me!

JaseXT, how are you finding the supermoto conversion now you've had it for a while? I believe the forks are softer on the R, how does this feel when you've got the X wheels on? Have you done anything to change the forks since? Thanks.

CaptMoto 30-10-08 12:27

:hello: ralph and :welcome: to :660: nice first post, make yourself right at home and enjoy the forum

help yourself to anything in the virtual drinking cabinet. ;)

colros 30-10-08 12:32

Hi Ralph and :welcome: to :660: , Lots to see and read. :evil6:

We would all like to see your pictures and vids. just some of us can only see them at home, :argue:, PC's.

So bring on the :toothy1:.

jasext 30-10-08 16:43

Hi Ralph http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/88.gif


I think the aprilia is the best sportsbike on the planet(i have owned a few) if i come into money i will be buying one again even if it's just to look at http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/181.gif



As for the supermoto conversion ,it was brilliant and a lot easier to change wheels than change tyres all the time ,the only mods i done were Kev mod,k&n air filter,fork spacers and arrow cans ,but these were done before i did the wheels

johnno 30-10-08 16:56

like what youve done.I bet a 08 swingarm would look good could be your next project ?

-ralph- 31-10-08 20:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasext (Post 72131)
Hi Ralph http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/88.gif


I think the aprilia is the best sportsbike on the planet(i have owned a few) if i come into money i will be buying one again even if it's just to look at http://www.postsmile.com/img/emotions/181.gif



As for the supermoto conversion ,it was brilliant and a lot easier to change wheels than change tyres all the time ,the only mods i done were Kev mod,k&n air filter,fork spacers and arrow cans ,but these were done before i did the wheels

I'm just one of these weird folk who like to have something different. I love the v-twin hence the SV650, and you'll never catch me getting passionate about a run of the mill japanese in-line four cylinder bike.

I haven't ridden the RSVR (yet), but I love the way it looks, and the fact it's not an GSX-R1-a-Blade.

The Factory is about the most sorted sports bike (suspension, brakes, etc) that you can buy out of the crate.

I quite fancy a Ducati 1098, MV Augusta F4 or a Benelli Tornado, but the RSVR is more practical.

Have you been over any rough stuff with the XT since you increased the front preload with the front spacers? If true switchability between green-laner and supermoto can be achieved I might just switch the SV for an XT ASAP for winter and wait until May to get the sports bike.

I am moving from Scotland to Birmingham at the beginning of December and I'll need to commute through Birmingham traffic every day.

jasext 31-10-08 22:37

If you read some ride reports we done on our website (vdsr) you will see some of the places i have taken the xt ,all doen with just switching wueels over ,the bike's suspension is exactly the same for both sets of wheels

-ralph- 01-11-08 12:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasext (Post 72229)
If you read some ride reports we done on our website (vdsr) you will see some of the places i have taken the xt ,all doen with just switching wueels over ,the bike's suspension is exactly the same for both sets of wheels

Cheers Jase, did a search on XT660 and had a look at this thread http://www.vdsr.co.uk/forums/index.php?topic=298.0

Looks like the XT is capable of a lot more than me at the moment! I certainly wouldn't attempt anything more challenging than those pic's at the moment. I haven't done much off road riding since I was a kid. I'm definately going to get one and evetually do the same supermoto conversion as yours so I have two bikes in one.

The stuff I did in Mexico was not nearly as challenging, dry and flat for most of it but it could get pretty rocky and deep loose surfaces in places. It bought me off once 'cos I was looking at the scenery not the trail. The guy on the Cagiva Canyon really struggled on occasions needing several attempts to get up the loose rocky steeper slopes, whereas the lightweight (but 30bhp gutless!) Falcon just needed a run up, a pinned throttle and a lot of dust!

See my Bebo page for the pic's
www.bebo.com/Colinbal4

R1ZLASUZUK1 06-06-09 23:48

thanks to jasext
 
I thought that i would just say thanks to jasext for his informative thread on fitting the xtx wheels on to the r.I have now done this and she looks great but tbh its cost me about �490 for the wheels,tyres and tubes so i probably could have brought the xtx with the extra cash,and ive still got pipes,filters etc to buy yet :cry[1]:.
regs
Tony

maxwell123455 07-06-09 02:00

But now you have the best of both worlds allowing you to change the wheels easy for SM riding (X wheels) then to general or off roading (R wheels).

Either that or you could sell your R wheels on ebay and with the money buy the other bits but i think it best to keep the R wheels as they are the oringinal wheels

johnno 01-07-09 09:01

chris this is the post you need and jason is ure man to ask


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