Rear shock info and recommendations needed.
 

Its been a while since posting. Ive since fitted a ktm 640 sm WP forks to the Ten. A massive improvment but it has highlighted the failing rear shock. Massively. I currently run a hyperpro progressive spring on the stock sachs unit and im looking to upgrade the whole lot. I like the progressive spring it suits my needs of touring, towing, and laning Very well.
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I contacted a bike shop that listed all the shocks id been looking at Nitron, hyperopro, wilbers, and hagon. This is the reply i got. Ive read loads of Posts and seem less informed than when i started. Im after a sturdy shock that will stand up too some offroad abuse.

Hi Jon

This is a particularly unusual case, in most circumstances we can supply a replacement shock or shock better than original, but in this circumstance there appears to be a problem where the design is outside of normal design characteristics.
Wilber's produces a shock for this particular bike where there is a 20mm less stroke than the original, because it gives a better on the road ride, but is considered not suitable for anything other than light off road usage, based on the principle of giving a better ride onroad at speed than anything else.
They have no design for dual purpose in this case or off road.

http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/Wil...ml?listID=1712

Hagon have exactly the same issue.
http://www.bits4motorbikes.co.uk/Hag...k.html?ID=1712

The problem is about acceptable quality the original design is not of a standard that either manufacture consider acceptable as an improved or satisfactory product to make with the same specifications.
Both manufacturers work on improving the characteristics of a general ride by sacrificing the characteristics of an off road ability. This of course in general is sensible. But inconvenient given your needs.

The other manufacturers will not respond as easily, but we expect any such response from them to be the same.
In simple terms because of a design limitation of this particular model we are of the opinion that no manufacturer has the design specifications to produce a dual role shock for this bike and no manufacturer that we are aware of offers trails version shock for this bike.

So in an extremely odd turn around the only dual purpose shock available is the original
SHOCK ABSORBER ASSY, REAR
11D-F2210-00
�344.64 + Shipping

which is not necessarily particularly useful, but we have ended up back at the beginning!

I'm sorry to say that there are no other options available with this bike.

So im all confused. I dont reli want to sacrifice suspension travel, my budget is around the �500 mark.
Are there any shocks out there that are the same piston travel as the stock unit. And are suitable for offroad. Ideally i want to keep my progressive spring as its excellent at handling my daily Changing loads. ( picking up a cooker with the trailer at 8pm. Trail riding the day after at 6am)
I was looking mainly at the hyperpro / yacugar unit. Any body got any experience with this shock offroad does it come with same travel as the standard unit, is it robust? or am i looking at loading up my credit card and stump for a full blown nitron race shock.

Does that even have the full travel available?? I understand suspension quality is better than lots of travel. Thats why im asking. Whats your experience.

Thanks in advance.
Jon

Hi Jon

Don't need as much money - i'm really happy with the simple Oehlins rear shock - available at off-the-road for about 480 Euros.

It's like day-night to the original shocks - even more with some luggage on the back.

Would recommend it anytime again.

cheers, Andy

ps: Looks nice the KTM-Fork:woo: on the T�n�r�.

Hi Andy, they are amaxing compared to the forks that came stock on the Ten. Took some time to dial in just right but im getting there.

I Had looked at the ohlins but it was this info on OTR that put me off.

The essential distinctions of this new �hlins shock without external reservoir and the higher prices version are the missing outer reservoir and the missing compression adjustment. Also the travel of this shock unfortunatelly is about 35mm less compared to the stock Yamaha shock!

This budget �hlins shock is our recommendation for all Tenere driver who use the bike on tarmac or flat roads and who very rarely go off-road.

Thats alot to lose from the travel. I go laning maybe 2-3 times a month with 300 -400 mile days through wales. i cant really push my budget to the more expensive unit Allthough i may just keep saving if its the best option.

Hi jon660,

You and i are in the exactly same place, i have fitted YZ forks and now wish to improve the rear.

Apart from Ohlins �735 shock from what i can tell they have all reduced travel.

I am currently waiting to hear from the Yacugar importers to confirm the same stroke as standard. Another forum member has told me they are the same just want confirmation. They are �600.

Wonder if theres a deal to be had if we buy 2 ???

I will let you know when i hear back.

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=23742

You're link about the Wilbers shock says it is not for off-road use but here is stated that you can order it for offroad use: ????????

http://www.kedo.com/ssl/php/function...eite%2F200.pdf

Hi Bonzo, it would indeed seem we are in the same boat. I have had a look at the nitron unit on rugged roads and am awaiting a response as to the shocks stroke. I have installed the 265mm version of the WP forks so wouldnt realy want to lose any rear travel Either. Lets see if we can get a discount for.2 units ;-) are the yacugar shocks fully adjustable?? Ive seen the hyperpro unit with rebound but cant find info on the stroke.

Link to shock
http://www.yacugarmotorcyclesuspension.co.uk/frs.htm

Hi Jon..
Really interested in the fork upgrade, if you don't mind me asking where do you get all the info from for the conversion?..

I didnt really have any, but heres a quick summary as im replying from my phone.

i guessed that the stiffly sprung 640 supermoto forks might have been a match for weight of the Ten. I got hold of a pair of forks. Minus crowns. A brake brake, 4 pot brembo. A pair of exc crowns. A.21 inch wheel. Tried to fit it all together and whoops.nothing fit. The axle Clamps where wider than the crowns. So i had to swap the SM foot for a EXC one. Then the brake wouldnt fit or.clear the spokes of.the 21" wheel. So i had to source a 2 pot brembo. Then a 320mm disc and caliper adaptor. I used the standard tenere lever.

Bulit it all up everything seemed good. Now onto the steering stem. Too fat to short and too imperial. ******.

Bought a lump of.31.8mm 7075 T6 ali. Made new steere. Pressed it into exc crowns shoved it in the bike. Bleed brake.

Test drive............ Too stiff reduce preload spacing from 25mm to 10 drop oil heighy height 10mm. Better. Drop oil 5mm more perfect. Raise bike 20mm at rear With Projection linkages to. Steepen the head angle a little..

Job done.