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jon660z 08-04-15 22:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonzo1 (Post 208755)

Which one Is The �600 Model??

Bonzo1 08-04-15 23:02

The F-RS

jon660z 08-04-15 23:38

Looks the business, if its the same stroke (or near as damn it) id be very interested. But for an extra �30 ish and postage the ohlins can be had from off the road.de

http://www.off-the-road.de/en/XT-660...26b93b4183fe97

Google reckons 859 euros is �622 ish

Decisions decisions,

jon660z 09-04-15 11:59

Ive just heard back from John Troost at hyperpro. And there 460 shock also has a reduced stroke. Heres what he had to say.
Hello Jon,



I guess you have the non ABS version then?

The stroke in our damper is 80mm, so also shorter then original.

If preferred, we can make the shock longer though, to regain the stroke. But then also the bike will get higher.



Regards,

John Troost

Hyperpro

Ive asked if the 461 shock. (same as the yacugar FRS unit by the looks of it) can be made to fit the tenere. He has forwarded the question too one of their engineers.so will get back too me soon.

Bonzo1 09-04-15 17:00

Just heard back from Yacugar and they dont make an F-RS shock for the Tenere.

They do E-RS which is same stroke as standard �400
An emulsion shock for all applications.
* Precision machined and quality checked.
* Fully serviceable for a life time use.
* Spring pre-load & rebound adjustment.
* Optional length adjuster and hydraulic pre-load adjuster.
* A top quality, fairly priced shock absorber.

Limited adjustment.

It appears its either this one or Ohlins at �700 +

Pleiades 09-04-15 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon660z (Post 208740)
I was looking mainly at the hyperpro / yacugar unit. Any body got any experience with this shock offroad does it come with same travel as the standard unit, is it robust?

I have the Yacugar ER-S and it's been working like a dream on and off-road for the past three years. AFAIK it has the same travel as stock and comes with a progressive spring which, like you, suits my needs as the weight I carry varies a lot from day to day.

They are available for �349 from several places. I bought mine from FTR.

The Yacugar shock is identical to the Hyperpro 460/360. They are both made in the same place except the Hyperpro gets a purple spring. So basically if your buying go for whichever you can get the cheapest.

FYI Ohlins do a cheaper shock for the XT which also costs about �350 although it is apparently "not recommended for off-road use"??

http://www.off-the-road.de/en/XT-660Z/Suspension-wheels/OEhlins-shock-XT-660-Z-Tenere-without-reservoir.html

darkhelmet 10-04-15 23:05

I wonder about Nitron. They build some nice custom shocks for Africa Twins

Give them a call.

This makes me wonder about my shock aswell. it is a one off from WP. I dont have any information about the travel, i got it with the bike, and it's not stated on the bill

jon660z 11-04-15 08:42

I Think ill give nitron a call if im unsuccessful with hyperpro. When i spoke to The guy at hyperpro he said there 460 was 80mm stroke, unless requested that it be custom built to retain the origional stroke. But this would increase the length of the shock by 20mm. Im asuming they just physically cant get the stroke with a single tube design in the length of the standard shock.

I had a think about it and i wonder if the reason for the reduced travel in the single tube shocks like the Ers and 460 is the limtied space available.

With a piggyback shock the nitrogen and some of the oil can be stored in the piggyback with the seperating piston that keeps the the oil and nitrogen apart. To fit all that in a single tube requires space. Hence the reduced travel. The stock shock does pack a fair stroke for its size.
And the only other shock That deffinatly has near as damn it 95mm of stroke is the ohlins. Which is a piggyback design.

Just a theory. Im no suspension expert.

Hyperpro are goimg to get back to me.on monday to let me know whether a 461 can be custom built for the ten.

66T 11-04-15 09:42

Fwiw, I have a piggyback Ohlins on mine after the OEM's dismal performance spoiled an otherwise great ride a few years ago. Never looked back. It has compression and rebound settings, though not separate hi/lo compression adjusters.

This business of building shocks with less than standard travel is weird imo. I can set the Ohlins up tight for on-road, or plusher for off-road. As far as I know, the piggyback version offers close to standard wheel travel, judging by its comparable length of exposed shaft at full extension.

Expensive, but the best thing I've done to my bike. Disgraceful that it's necessary to do so on a comparatively expensive ride.

Bonzo1 11-04-15 10:15

I have asked about Nitrons and was told they have reduced travel.

Pretty much decided to go for the ohlins, do the job right. spent long enough investigating this. its frustrating to not have choice but at least there is a much better than standard option.


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