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Mike101 30-04-14 15:30

Discs
 
Here is one for you to ponder.

My Tenere has three warped brake discs.

No sticking calipers.
No rubbing pads.
No heavy handed/footed riding.
No abuse other than normal road riding.

I took everything aprt and could not find a single fault.

The only thing that sticks out is that they all went wobbly within 2 weeks of each other. This was during the very wet few weeks we had in the UK. I was riding in heavy rain almost everyday.

I have ordered new discs as i can't handle doing the funky chicken every time i want to slow down.

Any ideas?

bikemad195 30-04-14 16:19

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Originally Posted by Keithblade (Post 199279)
Going by what you have told us I can only think you have a fault batch.

How old is the bike?
Still in warranty?

Sounds strange to me.

Are u sury the ri ets the disks float on arnt siezed? Gentely bang a nut and bolt through them and use it to rotate them a few times u will feel them slackning off my x front brakewas the same for the mot untill I was told to free the flotes off as the disk on the x is designed to move side to side a little but not sure the z is the same tho

bikemad195 30-04-14 19:10

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Originally Posted by Keithblade (Post 199282)
But all 3 to seize would either be a coincidence or down to riding in very extreme conditions which by the post it didn't sound like he had.

All the same age etc etc same amount or dirt etc and lots of water ........ for the sake of a nut and bolt and half hour with a wratchet its worth a try

Pleiades 01-05-14 00:17

+1 for stuck or sticky bobbins on the discs. You only need one to have seized on an individual disc to through things out and create a juddering problem. The effects can be magnified further if the calipers, pins, piston etc are sticky and corroded too. If the bobbins are stuck through corrosion, then the moving parts of the caliper are likely to be in the same or similar condition. All this is not unusual on a bike used through a wet winter.

I very much doubt that all three discs have warped.

bikemad195 01-05-14 02:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 199297)
+1 for stuck or sticky bobbins on the discs. You only need one to have seized on an individual disc to through things out and create a juddering problem. The effects can be magnified further if the calipers, pins, piston etc are sticky and corroded too. If the bobbins are stuck through corrosion, then the moving parts of the caliper are likely to be in the same or similar condition. All this is not unusual on a bike used through a wet winter.

I very much doubt that all three discs have warped.

If all three have warped I give u permission to remove my little finger with tin snips :)

Mike101 01-05-14 13:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by bikemad195 (Post 199309)
If all three have warped I give u permission to remove my little finger with tin snips :)


All three are warped..i know..i've checked.

The idea of the font and the bobbins makes sense but what about the rear..this is not floating and bolts straight to the wheel hub.

I just think that riding 70 miles a day almost every day for months and months in all that rain and crap has exposed a bit of a weakness. Not many other Teneres get the use and expose to the constant wet that mine did.

Most seem to be tucked up when it rains or cleaned within a inch of their lives if the get wet/muddy.

Mike

Pleiades 01-05-14 14:04

Discs
 
As you've ordered new discs anyway your problem been solved.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike101 (Post 199322)
I just think that riding 70 miles a day almost every day for months and months in all that rain and crap has exposed a bit of a weakness. Not many other Teneres get the use and expose to the constant wet that mine did.


Bit odd though? Normally disc warping is associated with excessive heat, not winter riding and wet cold weather? Winter riding is generally more of a cause for corrosion and calliper seizures.

marques 01-05-14 14:22

Discs
 
I run on average 200k a day in all sorts of weather in the mountains carrying a very heavy payload.Typhoons and all. Winter is like borrowdaIe and summer is like the amazon.
park my bike 5 metres away from the ocean outside.never clean it. Take it off road during the weekends. Drop it crash it bend it. Change my own tyres with the disks on the ground. If there warped, I haven't yet noticed.

Mike101 01-05-14 15:03

Well i've no idea what is going on with my tenere.

All the callipers were fine with no stuck pots etc.

I've never ever locked up the rear wheel or used the rear brake in excess yet it's really buckled...so much that it wears down new brake pads to metal on one side in 1500 miles.

The front pads are all fine and as above have not been used in excess. I'd actually like to see anybody use the front brake to excess without going over the bars. When i first noticed the bucking i thought of stuck/rubbing callipers first but after each long ride i checked the discs for heat and they were both cold...every time.

Both the front are buckled..not really bad but enough to have me bucking under normal braking.

This all seemed to go wrong in the bad weather so maybe there is a link but maybe not?

What ever has happened has happened very quickly and is not heat related. Also i don't use a disc lock so no issues there.

I've ordered three new discs �48 each for the front OEM and �78 for a Brembo rear...not cheap but not as much as i thought.

I'll let you know how it goes.

Mike

SimonRoma 02-05-14 06:23

I would chat to the local Yamaha service guy and ask his opinion. It could be that your discs come from a faulty batch???? At least ask, as generally Yamaha are good when it comes to known faults and hey you never know......


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