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Pleiades 27-10-13 14:36

Exan X-Black Single Exhaust (inc. DIY Tool Tube)
 
The Exan pipe arrived on Friday – 3 days from Italy with free delivery ( Mad4Exhausts.com), which is fairly speedy and it was also a whole lot cheaper than bought from the UK importer.

Far too windy for a ride to be much fun (that’s the weather, not me), so decided to crack on and fit the exhaust.

Took all of 30 minutes to do, everything lined up and fitted perfectly. The link pipe and silencer all fit snugly to the line of the frame and look like they were meant to be there.

Fired her up expecting my ears to take a pounding as the can is quite small, and being "kite" shaped in cross section, there’s not a lot of sound absorption material in the lower part silencer. However, I was pleasantly surprised – throaty, but by no means offensive. To put the volume into perspective (with dB killer fitted), it’s somewhere between my old Akrapovic system with baffles and without baffles. I always found the Akras too quiet when baffled and too noisy without, so the Exan is about spot on for me. Haven’t tried it without the dB killer, but I reckon it will be LOUD.

Before I fitted the Exan I popped it on the scales and was astonished that, with link pipe, clamps and all fittings it came in at 1.65Kg! I knew it would be light because when I received the parcel I thought there was nothing in it!

Here’s a few piccies to whet the appetite…

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...psac09135f.jpg

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...psa323c127.jpg

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Locky 27-10-13 15:39

Thats a very nice looking can , the shape sets it apart from others ..
What brand is the tail bag ?

Pleiades 27-10-13 15:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locky (Post 193462)
What brand is the tail bag ?

Touratech Enduro 2.

Don't buy one from Touratech though! You'll save �20 by buying it from here. In fact they sell all the TT stuff cheaper than TT UK. It's the same price as the gear on the German TT web site, but TT are canny and won't send anything directly to the UK bought from the .de shop, it'll come via South Wales at an inflated rip-off Britain price.

DaleC 27-10-13 18:41

Looks great Mate! And the weight is astonishing!!!! :applause:

I just checked the site (per your link) and they don't appear to have a similar, single-sided option for the R. Yours has me wondering whether I can grab one to replace the Scorpion end can on the R that weighs a bit more and could do with some more bass to its note :icon_study:

Gibbo1974 28-10-13 09:50

Hey Pleiades,

Are your old Akro's for sale ???

Can I have first refusal if they are ?

Cheers,

Gibbo.

muppdog 28-10-13 19:40

Nice one, at last a pipe that follows the lines of the bike nicely.

Rob

Sandman 28-10-13 23:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by muppdog (Post 193501)
Nice one, at last a pipe that follows the lines of the bike nicely.

Rob


Absolutely!!!! The MTC cans....as nice as they may be are just horrible to look at but this is a very nice looking can, nice shape, good lines and good price.

I fear my bike is going to end up looking just like this one...coz it's black, I like the can, I like the Holan Nomada panniers, I like the tasteful TT trinkets and I like the front mudguard mods! Shoulda just made Pleiades an offer for his and saved myself the bother of all the work :eusa_wall:

BLACK :tenere: RULE :rockwoot:


Sandman

Kev 29-10-13 10:07

Looks good mate.

Pleiades 31-10-13 00:30

Tried it without the dB killer today and as expected, it�s too loud! No surprise there really. Still think it's about spot on for balance between a sounding good and unobtrusive with the baffle in.

I�ve started work on a DIY tool tube, which I�m going to fabricate out of black 110mm solvent weld soil pipe with screw on water-tight inspection caps. The reason for soil pipe and a DIY job is I want something big enough to store a pair of inner tubes, which none of the commercially available ones will do. In fact I might call it a "Tube Tube"?

Being 110mm in diameter means you can get your hand right inside and down the bottom too � handy for retrieving little odds and sods from its depths. Soil pipe is also cheap, tough, waterproof (obviously) and readily available from plumbers merchants.

So far I�ve made a mock up out of a cardboard carpet roll inner (which just so happens to also be 110mm) so I can work out the length and position. I reckon I can get a 400mm long tube in the space left by the vacant right hand silencer. With an internal diameter of 100mm, that makes for just over 3 litres of extra storage.

It is suspended using a circular stainless silencer hanger, which also very handily comes in 110mm diameter as standard. I�m in the process of welding up a bracket/steady out of 10mm box section to support the front end.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4237cfc5.jpg

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...pse032489b.jpg

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speedlime 31-10-13 19:42

Exhaust looks great, Pleiades. On another note I like what you did with the front mudguard. Is that from a XTX ??

Locky 31-10-13 20:25

I've just changed to single can MTC for the very purpose of fitting a tool tube . I have one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle...item2c73c7a10b in the garage but as you mention , not quite big enough !
Where are you getting your solvent weld ends from ? Got a link ?

Pleiades 01-11-13 15:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedlime (Post 193584)
On another note I like what you did with the front mudguard. Is that from a XTX ??

The high front mudguard is an Acerbis Super Moto from OTR.

The lower guard at the front is An XTR item, available from your dealer for �15.

All the info on the mudguard mod can be found here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Locky (Post 193586)
Where are you getting your solvent weld ends from ? Got a link ?

I happened to get mine from Travis Perkins, only because I have an account with them. You should be able to get them from any builder�s merchants such as Jewson, Buildbase etc, or any plumber�s merchants like PTS. You can get them online from plastics suppliers, but the delivery is often expensive if you only want a few quids worth of stuff.

These are the ones I�ll be using�

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps572e5e0c.jpg

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speedlime 01-11-13 21:21

Thanks for the info, a little winter project me thinks....

phil ten 02-11-13 12:29

looking good!!

How does your new zorst (with DB killer) compare to an MTC (with DB killer)?

Also i presume that is an exhaust clamp holding on your tool tube?

Pleiades 02-11-13 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 193626)
How does your new zorst (with DB killer) compare to an MTC (with DB killer)?

I would say the Exan is quieter than a baffled MTC (compared with those that I've heard anyway).

The Exan has a completely different design of Db killer than MTC, Akrapovic, Leo Vince etc. Its not your typical "pepper pot" type. I'll try an post a photo to illustrate this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 193626)
Also i presume that is an exhaust clamp holding on your tool tube?

Yep. The main body and weight of the tube is supported by a 110mm strap type silencer hanger. The front (non-opening) end will have a steady attached to it.

marques 02-11-13 14:32

This is exactly the set up i want. At first i use to keep my tools in a rucsack along with other emergency stuff. But it took a lot of the enjoyment away having to carry them and the extra prep time. Now against my better judgement i fly out of the house with too few hours before dark, making every minute count, up into the mountains. The lack of tools, etc,, is a constant worry.
I also prefer the single can, my bike came with l/v cans, Is it possible to grind the secondary can off and get the hole covered and welded? Or is there more to it?

Pleiades 02-11-13 14:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by marques (Post 193642)
my bike came with l/v cans, Is it possible to grind the secondary can off and get the hole covered and welded? Or is there more to it?

Yes. Perfectly possible, but it may well be loud!! The LV system is setup for two cans to do the silencing, so with only one you may need to do some repacking of the can and perhaps a bit of remodelling of the dB killer?

marques 02-11-13 15:05

Great, interested to see how you will attach the front of the pipe. Are you using glue to attach the threaded section to the pipe?

Pleiades 05-11-13 16:29

Here's a picture of the baffle/dB killer as promised. Not your typical "pepper pot" type, but works well without interrupting gas flow too much as the opening is quite wide and it allows plenty of room around the sides too. The plate does enough to catch and interrupt the high pressure pulse from each exhaust stroke.

http://s12.postimg.org/oppnyiod9/j5gete.jpg

marques 06-11-13 00:02

I wonder if you wouldn't mind explaining that to and exhaust dummy like me. What's its purpose and how do you intend to modify it

phil ten 06-11-13 14:40

is yours the
Exan Oval X-Black Yamaha XT 660 Z Tener�

which 401 euros? (about �337)

Pleiades 06-11-13 19:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 193781)
is yours the
Exan Oval X-Black Yamaha XT 660 Z Tener�

which 401 euros? (about �337)

Yes it is Phil. (Except mine is titanium which is 25 euro more than the stainless version.)

Pleiades 09-11-13 15:13

Finished the "Tube Tube" and I'm pretty happy with the results. There's 3.2L of space inside compared with 1.2L (1.7L inclusing the space in the lid) for the Agri-Supply/Adventure Spec tool tube. It easily accommodates both front and rear tubes, tyre levers plus several other bits and bobs.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps9c3849ad.jpg

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps87cacfe0.jpg

The front steady is made from a right-angle of welded box section steel and fixed to the undertray where the bolts go through and fix to the captive nuts of the main fuse holder. This method of support is plenty strong enough if you've got pannier racks fitted as the all the weight is taken by the exhaust clamp. Without racks to protect the tube in a fall I think this arrangement may be less suitable.

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...pscfcf8591.jpg

Macca2801 09-11-13 15:29

Looks awesome! Maybe could have got 3.5l if you brought it out inline with the exhaust but this is awesome storage over stock! Might have to chase Barrett for a single pipe and follow suit if I want a single with storage!!
Matt

Pleiades 09-11-13 19:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca2801 (Post 193893)
Looks awesome!

:signthankspin:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macca2801 (Post 193893)
Maybe could have got 3.5l if you brought it out inline with the exhaust but this is awesome storage over stock!

Did think about going out further (you could go another 100mm easily, giving 0.8L more space), but I opted for a more discrete look. When the panniers are fitted you hardly notice it at all. Also as it's not the same shape as the exhaust, I didn't want to try too hard to match things up - I wanted to make it look intentionally asymmetric.

Well worth doing though - big, simple, strong and cheap!

mb4807 31-05-14 15:20

Will this can work with yam panniers?
 
Do you think the Exan can, in the shape you have, or the slightly more conventional oval shape, would work ok with the Yamaha pannier rails and panniers? The exhaust exit looks to be nice and far back so probably won't melt a top box, but I'm wondering about clearance on the sides? Any thoughts?

Pleiades 01-06-14 00:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by mb4807 (Post 200062)
Do you think the Exan can, in the shape you have, or the slightly more conventional oval shape, would work ok with the Yamaha pannier rails and panniers? The exhaust exit looks to be nice and far back so probably won't melt a top box, but I'm wondering about clearance on the sides? Any thoughts?

The X-Black shape is a very very slim can. I had the Yamaha panniers (before the Holans) and the exhaust will fit comfortably. I'd guess the oval ones would work too, judging by the clearance available. And I would agree with you that the pipe exit is far enough back not to trouble the plastic base of the Yamaha top case.

Surfsixten 01-06-14 09:07

I have an Exan oval on my XT660Z and Yamaha panniers and there is plenty of space.

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mb4807 01-06-14 09:52

Thanks guys. Nice to know I can order the Exan with confidence.

penfold 09-06-14 22:37

Hi,

Thanks for posting on my thread. A couple of quick questions about the exan:

1. Presumably it decats the bike?
2. Do you need to update the bike fuelling or is it simply install and go?

Thanks again,
Penfold

Pleiades 09-06-14 23:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by penfold (Post 200266)
A couple of quick questions about the exan:

1. Presumably it decats the bike?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by penfold (Post 200266)

2. Do you need to update the bike fuelling or is it simply install and go?

No. Install and go. It will run fine with the stock fuelling (or as well as XTs do anyway in their rather lean state of standard tune! ;) )

The bike will benefit hugely from either a Kev Mod or Power Commander (which ever suits your budget) together with an O2 controller/optimiser, regardless of whether it's standard or modified with pipes, filters etc. You won't believe the difference - be like a different bike.

penfold 12-06-14 00:31

Thanks Pleiades, as I said in the other thread I've gone down your exact route with an Exan exhaust from mad4exhausts. They've been very responsive to my questions so all being well I'll have a new exhaust early next week!

Prepare yourself for stupid questions on tool tubes next...

Thanks,
Penfold

Pleiades 12-06-14 00:47

Just out of interest... Which version of the Exan did you plump for?

Quote:

Originally Posted by penfold (Post 200309)
Prepare yourself for stupid questions on tool tubes next...

No worries mate. Ask away...

penfold 12-06-14 07:42

Hi,

The Exan oval x-black titanium body, same as yours I think looking at the pics. Had a debate over stainless v titanium but price difference is relatively small and I liked the look of the Ti body.

Cheers,
Penfold

penfold 27-06-14 20:54

Hello again,

Exhaust arrived this morning and has been fitted to the bike, looks good!

I thought I'd do a comparison video to try and give a feel for the difference in noise, a point of concern I had and others have shared too.

Before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZARVsOX7nzs

After: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=A7hM3pyniZc
(number plate has since been tightened!)

So nominally the same conditions, cold start, same location, videoed from same position and same day (albeit a few hours apart), so best comparison I think you're going to get! From my point of view, similar to Pleiades I think, the exhaust is not too much louder and is a nice sound. I'd probably describe it as having more bass rather than truly noisier, would you agree Pleiades? It won't offend the neighbours in my opinion.
As you'll not from the video, the popping on the overrun appears a little more explosive. I'm waiting for the Loctite on my fasteners to set before I take her for a run so can't comment on ride noise/changes in the engine just yet.

In terms of attaching. The Yamaha exhaust came off really easily, I was surprised at how easy it was. Fitting the new one, well I wish they gave instructions for these things! I ended up going out and purchasing a new, longer fastener to fix the exhaust hanger to the pannier mounting point, (M8 x 100, but could be shorter than this). Not ideal, but works. A bracket was supplied with the exhaust, but I have no idea where this would go and I'm inclined to go down the route of making my own when I get a chance.

Pleiades, how did you attach yours? I can see that it wasn't on the pannier mount, so did you create your own bracket?

Now some obligatory pictures!


https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3902/...bb98073a_o.jpg


https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2895/...ba91b2e7_o.jpg

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penfold 27-06-14 21:04

And another thing...

Taking the old exhaust off leaves a big hole in the underseat. Temporary fix from me was a sheet of plastic to stop the bulk of water spray/crud getting under there. I'll need to engineer something a bit better, anyone solved this already?

Thanks,
Penfold

Pleiades 27-06-14 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by penfold (Post 200733)
From my point of view, similar to Pleiades I think, the exhaust is not too much louder and is a nice sound. I'd probably describe it as having more bass rather than truly noisier, would you agree Pleiades? It won't offend the neighbours in my opinion.

Yep. We're singing from the same hymn sheet on this one.

Quote:

Originally Posted by penfold (Post 200733)
Pleiades, how did you attach yours? I can see that it wasn't on the pannier mount, so did you create your own bracket?[/IMG]

Yeah, I used a double-sided hanger bolted through under the seat so as I could mount the tool tube on the other side. Plus I was lazy and couldn't be arsed to remove my pannier rack to get at the mounting point that Exan suggest using!

...and a sheet of plastic is the best solution to the under seat gap (I also siliconed round mine so it's totally water/mud tight).

penfold 27-06-14 21:12

Good stuff. I cut my plastic poorly so gaps were verging on a bit big for silicone sealing, I'll go back and do it properly as I was thinking along the same lines.

Did you buy your double hanger? If so, where from? As I said before, I am going to rip off your tool tube idea, and the front mudguard, want TKCs... my bike might turn into a clone of yours!

Pleiades 27-06-14 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by penfold (Post 200737)
Did you buy your double hanger? If so, where from?

It is one I had from a previous set of cans, but I would have made one if I hadn't had one lying around. It wouldn't be difficult. Just a folded length of steel with four holes drilled in it and a couple of spacers. If you want to make one the same as mine I could get you the measurements, drawings and photos?

penfold 27-06-14 21:37

Funny enough, I did actually buy some bar today to do just that. If you could give me the rough dimensions that'd be great. It'll save me scrapping metal unnecessarily.

I assume that you used the yamaha exhaust mounting threaded holes as the securing point.

Thanks


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