only cure for that is some elbow grease, after a few times youl get the technique

I had the same problem, to much heavy, so I just took it off. I have never missed it.

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jeez some of you guys need to get to a gym !!!!:angel9::Nurse_KGBJ5I:

Haha my FJR fully laden with panniers and stuff was a killer too.....

You bunch of wimps , get to the gym

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I've never had a problem, even fully loaded - although I use the pannier rails as a hold point. Arms straight, legs bent and push down on the stand, rather than lifting the bike with my arm. With the right method I can put my bike on it's center stand with slippers on (why would I do that ? - can't remember why now)

You may be trying to use your arms to lift the bike, rather than locking your arms and using your leg - it's subtle, but makes a big difference. Tall bikes do need a more refined action, and if you've never been shown properly, then you may have small areas where you can improve. It can help simply by watching someone (who finds it easy) and working out where the differences are

The distance between the stand and the grab rails is a relatively long way, which is why many people have no problem with low bike (your arms would be extended and so you naturally use your leg to provide the lift. You could use the rear hanger, but the this may put your back in a bad position.

Not sure if it is significant, but I removed the OE can, so I'm 5kg lighter at the rear, although I never had any issues before I changed the can.

Another very subtle consideration, the static sag on the rear shock. The OE spring (on the shock) sags considerably after a while (about 10 - 15k miles on mine), when I replaced the spring the rear end sat up in the region of 30-50mm. With the bike sitting lower to the ground, the effort needed to get the stand under the bike increases.

Alternatively.... there is always the gym !

Technique is vital, and I would agree completely that using your weight to push down is a lot more effective than using your muscles to pull up. Some of us have plenty of weight to assist, but muscle is more of a problem.

But the design of the stand is hugely important too. I had a Suzuki Bandit 1200 that rolled onto its stand like a dream. The tang on the stand was long and in exactly the right position, and all you had to do was put a bit of weight on it and the bike floated up. My 1300 Pan was a nightmare, Russian shot putters only, and all because the tang was badly positioned. They gave you a little fold-out handle which helped, but not much.

what i find a ****** is loading up my bike while on the centre stand.

As soon as the roll bag goes on the back seat...the bike tips back onto the back wheel. getting it off the stand becomes quite hard :(